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    Quote Originally Posted by dancqu
    Very interesting that "what ever came of it". Reminds me of
    the Cold Fusion excitement some years ago. There are a few
    posting to this site and others who claim to have the inside
    on what is going on. But not a word. I think it a very
    important discovery. Why the lid on so tight?

    From what little I've been able to glean from the WWW
    the process is no more than the addition of some not
    very exotic chemical to the emulsion. An easy three
    stop speed increase. I remember thinking that it
    could possibly be an at home treatment.

    Perhaps that is reason for no news; the process, for
    who knows why, is not amenable to mass production.
    I'll likely follow up on the matter. Dan
    I did a pretty short patent search on Agfa and didn't find anything on this. Of course, I had to get some work done, so I didn't do a thorough job..

    Matt

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    Anyone any idea if this will effect the processing of Scala? I know it was planned to stop next year anyway, but is this likely to be brought forward?

    David.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattCarey
    I did a pretty short patent search on Agfa
    and didn't find anything on this.
    I don't think Agfa had anything to do with the
    discovery. They Own the patent. That
    may make a difference. Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fotohuis
    Calbe R09 is comming from Calbe in the former DDR (eastern Germany), it's more or less a copy of the original Rodinal.
    Robert... You should know better... Its HARDLY a copy. Agfa Rodinal is a "copy" from a company that was first founded in the early 1950s by Bayer (IG Farben´s successor). The "original Agfa" was located in Bitterfeld and its chemicals were last made in the town of Calbe. The Calbe chemicals continue and their "R09" is based upon the "real" intellectual property of Agfa and the original proprietary formulas for Rodinal. The reason its called R09 and not Rodinal, just as the company came to be called OrWo and not Agfa was part of a settlement in 1964 with Bayer A.G. who too claimed rights to the tradename Agfa but had much more clout, especially in the United States (and the spiritual home of I.G.Farben's darkest past). R09 just as Agfa Rodinal in the west continued to be the object of continued evolutionary modifications. Both products are not identical to what they sold in the 1950s or 1960s. Given that only Calbe has a true lineage to the Agfa Filmfabrik it is clearly the, if there is an "original", "original" and Agfa Rodinal is a highly modified copy. The "fomulas" of both are proprietary. The so-called Rodinal formulas are not, and never were, the formulas for Rodinal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing
    Has anybody checked on Morten Damkjær (modafoto)? Is he all right? How are his spirits holding up?
    Morten is currently in a coma and he is fed with 1+50 Rodinal. The blood samples show good development, but his density is still critical.

    Greetings Hanne S. Damkjær, wife

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    If he wants to order 112 bottles of Rodinal, he will be OK. Every morining 2 spoons and repeat it during the afternoon. Just before sleep the rest and he will feel better.

    About I.G.; Calbe, ORWO and other WWII stories about the Rodinal rights, thanks for your statement so far.

    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by modafoto
    Morten is currently in a coma and he is fed with 1+50 Rodinal. The blood samples show good development, but his density is still critical.

    Greetings Hanne S. Damkjær, wife
    He's under constant agitation or calm stand development treatment?
    - You will develop when you become an analog photographer / Exposed Material / Monochromes

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    He's under constant agitation or calm stand development treatment?
    shaked not stirred...........

    This is our *NEWS* (Nieuws) announcement:

    *** LAATSTE NIEUWS ****: ivm de aanstaande liquidatie van Agfa (photo) hebben wij een grote hoeveelheid Agfa Rodinal ingekocht. Deze unieke ontwikkelaar is op basis van Para-aminophenol, verdunning tussen 1+25 en 1+100. Rodinal 125ml € 4,00 , Rodinal 500ml €9,00 Tweede fles 10% korting.
    Rodinal is vrijwel onbeperkt houdbaar

    http://www.FotohuisRoVo.nl

    Have a nice translation.....
    Last edited by Fotohuis; 10-21-2005 at 07:55 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Another rumour:
    Everything will be moving to China and 20% of the manpower will be left...

    Only a rumour from my local photoshop. [sic, what's in a name... :-)]

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    Quote Originally Posted by abeku
    He's under constant agitation or calm stand development treatment?
    He has to remain still for 400 days now...then we will agitate him gently and fix him.



 

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