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    The winner in the supermarket/drugstore brand film trade as a result of Agfa's pullout is more likely to be someone like Ferrania.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcallow
    Does Illford make colour film?
    No. But, how hard is it to set up to make color film? After all they already have the machines to make B+W film.

    Jon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imageWIS
    No. But, how hard is it to set up to make color film? After all they already have the machines to make B+W film.

    Jon.
    I can just see the conversation between Ilford and the financial backers they would need to do the R&D to make this happen. "We want X million pounds to produce color film so we can sell it in the cost cutting, low profit margin, supermarket/drugstore market."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandc
    I can just see the conversation between Ilford and the financial backers they would need to do the R&D to make this happen. "We want X million pounds to produce color film so we can sell it in the cost cutting, low profit margin, supermarket/drugstore market."
    LOL. They can purchase Agfa’s colorfilm processing and manufacturing machines…

    Jon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imageWIS
    LOL. They can purchase Agfa’s colorfilm processing and manufacturing machines…

    Jon.
    By why? With colour film sales headed for decline, and b&w becoming a specialist market that Kodak will eventually abandon, Ilford is in a good spot. Colour would distract them from their core competency. They used to make colour neg film, but I'm not sure how many years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Dunbar
    By why? With colour film sales headed for decline, and b&w becoming a specialist market that Kodak will eventually abandon, Ilford is in a good spot. Colour would distract them from their core competency. They used to make colour neg film, but I'm not sure how many years ago.

    Earl
    You're right in saying it would be a distraction. They no doubt have the technology because XP2 Super is a C41 process B&W film. However Ilford haven't manufactured their own colour film since they stopped producing it for the long defunct TrifCa lab 25/30 years ago. Later "Ilford" colour films were rebranded Konica, then Agfa and more recently for some markets there was an Ilford Colour 100 Plus which was actually made by 3M/Ferrania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brac
    You're right in saying it would be a distraction. They no doubt have the technology because XP2 Super is a C41 process B&W film. However Ilford haven't manufactured their own colour film since they stopped producing it for the long defunct TrifCa lab 25/30 years ago. Later "Ilford" colour films were rebranded Konica, then Agfa and more recently for some markets there was an Ilford Colour 100 Plus which was actually made by 3M/Ferrania.
    Ilford might be able to benefit by sharing resources with someone interested in taking over the Agfa Colour business. I expect that a significant part of any film company's costs must be related to distribution and marketing. I can certainly see the day where colour film will also be a niche market. If Ilford and someone else could benefit from some economies of scale, then all the better.

    Now of course my first preference would be to see Kodak set up its own, separate, healthy specialized film, paper and chemistry divisions for the hobbyist and professionals, and run them well, but that's another issue.

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    A come back for Dye Transfer? I hear that JandC has some nice sizes in Matrix film. I looked into this and found that I needed, a lot of lab time, Dyes, Dyes, Dyes, and chemicals and paper and mordant and the list goes on. I had a photography teacher was an accomplished Dye Transfer printer but he wouldn't teach anyone the craft.
    If JandC would provide the dyes and chemistry... Well here's to dreaming. The Matrix film must be made to be sold to someone.
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    A funny world...lately i have been listening to several people who tell me that I better forget about getting hold of more Rodinal (and one even told me that all over Europe Rodinal was impossible to get....except from his company that would happy ship me 100+ bottles for 25% over the price I pay in Denmark...)

    But I went down to my local photo store and got their 6 bottles off the shelf with 10 more bottles coming home in a few days...

    So in Denmark Rodinal is still accessable. Right now all shop who normally stocks Rodinal has quite an amount in stock...

    But better safe than sorry...I have a rather large supply of Rodinal now...I will not worry for the next 5-10 years...how many bottles I have? You do the math
    I may start to export when the stuff get rare

    Morten

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    Quote Originally Posted by modafoto
    But I went down to my local photo store and got their 6 bottles off the shelf with 10 more bottles coming home in a few days...

    So in Denmark Rodinal is still accessable. Right now all shop who normally stocks Rodinal has quite an amount in stock...
    Morten
    It's still available in a couple of shops I frequent in Amsterdam. One of the others still has (last week at least) APX in 120 and 35mm.

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