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    Rollei Retro = Agfa

    I got this Email today from Hans O Mahn co. It might be old news for some, I rather liked the possibility of shooting APX 100 in 120 format again...

    From our stock again - now - available:
    AGFA APX 100 + AGFA APX 400

    now under the new name
    ROLLEI RETRO 100 + ROLLEI RETRO 400

    From the latest fresh production from firm AGFA, "master rolls" of 2,000 Sqm each per roll, are
    made available. These master rolls have been cut and packed meanwhile, as
    35mm 135-36, and rollfilms 120.

    These manufactured films will be offered to our customers now under the name
    ROLLEI RETRO.
    This opened now the possibility, to obtain the reliable AGFA quality,
    for a long time to go.

    Delivery program:

    135-36 cartrigde packed with Agfa system, 30,5 meters of 35mm perforrated, Rollfilm 120.

    The film range and prices can be also retrieved in the Internet under www.rollei.com.
    The actual fixed prices remain unchanged until May 31, 2006.

    100 Euros -at moment- 124 US-Dollar.


    RETRO 100 10x135-36 # RR1011P 28,90 Euro

    RETRO 100 61x135-36 # RR1011X 158,60 Euro

    RETRO 100 Test Set # RR10K 18,50 Euro
    5x135-36 + 250ml film developer

    RETRO 100 12x120 #RR1001P 30,00 Euro

    RETRO 100 100x120 #RR1001X 225,00 Euro

    RETRO 100 Test Set #RR11K 15,50 Euro
    5x120 + 250ml film developer

    RETRO 400 10x135-36 #RR4011P 28,90 Euro

    RETRO 400 61x135-36 #RR4011X 158,60 Euro

    RETRO 400 Test Set #RR40K 18,50 Euro
    5x120 + 250ml film developer

    RETRO 400 12x120 #RR4001P 30,00 Euro

    RETRO 400 100x120 #RR4001X 225,00 Euro

    RETRO 400 Test Set #RR41K 15,50 Euro
    5x120 + 250ml film developer

    ALL RETRO FILMS ARE NOW EX STORAGE AVAILABLE!

    PRICES ARE FIXED UNTIL MAY 31, 2006.

    Latest ordering must be received until May 30, 2006 or on May 31, 2006
    NLT 10:00 A.M. European time.

    With kind regards
    Mit freundlichem Gruss
    Hartmuth Schroeder
    Director of the
    MACO PHOTO PRODUCTS
    Hans O. Mahn & Co. KG
    Brookstieg 4
    D-22145 Stapelfeld/Hamburg GERMANY
    Phone +49 -40 -237 008 88
    Fax +49 -40 -237 008488
    E-Mail: <mailto:Photo@mahn.net>
    Internet:
    Mahn/Maco <http://www.mahn.net/>
    Rollei Fototechnik <http://www.rollei.com/>
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    What is the point. It will run out pretty quick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by antielectrons
    What is the point. It will run out pretty quick...
    This is exactly the point. If it runs out pretty quick, then this'll mean that people are still looking for good old B&W film...

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    For those who want to shoot on APX 100/400 emulsion one of the last changes to get it and stock it.

    By the end of 2004 APX on rollfilm was already not available in the Netherlands anymore.

    Best regards,

    Robert

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    What is the point in going to all the bother of testing and calibrating a film that is in limited supply. Better to invest the effort in films that will be available in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Koch
    What is the point in going to all the bother of testing and calibrating a film that is in limited supply. Better to invest the effort in films that will be available in the future.
    If you haven't yet tested APX 100 or APX 400, then don't bother... leave others that have been shooting them for the last 15+ years buy the stock...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Koch
    What is the point in going to all the bother of testing and calibrating a film that is in limited supply. Better to invest the effort in films that will be available in the future.
    Yes.

    And yet, APX 100 is unique.

    It's color rendition cannot, and will not, be replaced.

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    "One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid,
    and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"

    -Bertrand Russell

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    Thanks for passing on the information. I downloaded the PDF for Rollei Retro, and then compared the Spectral Sensitivity curve to my 2005 data sheet for AGFA APX100. They look too close for me to think they are not nearly the same. To add to this, the other specifications provided by Rollei also match. Looks the same to me, at least enough to try some film.

    While I have never been a fan of APX400, the curves also seem to match. The funny thing is that other than your letter you posted here, there is no mention of AGFA nor APX100 on the data sheet, though I guess that is to be expected. Does the quote ". . . for a long time to go" mean they will continue to offer these new films?

    Ciao!

    Gordon

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerrBremerhaven
    ... Does the quote ". . . for a long time to go" mean they will continue to offer these new films? ...
    I tried translating that phrase back to German, but it still doesn't make sense. I still have no idea what it means...

    The really sad thing about this is that I had just started using APX100 sheet film when it disappeared. For a short while it was the most easily available 6.5x9cm film, which I use to feed some of my old plate cameras (if you had a 6.5x9cm Voigtländer Bergheil with a 120mm f:4.5 Heliar, in Syncro-Compur, wouldn't you like to keep it fed?). And just as soon as I got used to it, it was gone...
    -- Ole Tjugen, Luddite Elitist
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    That is my point Ole. If they are just selling rebadged old stock then it will be gone too soon for anyone to get used to it. Even if you have used APX in the past, it would be advisable to test this stuff also. I dont think it is worth the effort unless Rollei are saying there is a long term future for this stuff?

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