New films shown at ICIS by Fuji and Kodak

Photo Engineer · 05-08-2006, 07:01 PM

Fuji people were excited about their new 1200 speed negative film and they gave a talk on their 400 speed reversal film at the ICIS conference today. Members of their team were using a new Fuji camera with samples of the 1200 speed film. These films will only be available in Japan for the time being.

The data for the 400 speed film indicates that it should have the grain and color reproduction of their 100 speed reversal films.

Kodak showed a sample motion picture film comparing their new 50D Vision film and their other new Vision films. The shots were stunning, especially the stills comparing grain and sharpness. This was followed by a talk on the 2 electron sensitization.

Tomorrow, Kodak will reveal the worlds fastest B&W reversal film. It has a speed of 24,000. I am looking forward to that talk. Anyone want any of this one?????? Sample pictures are shown on page 220 of the ICIC 06 proceedings.

I plan on being at this one!

PE

Mick Fagan · 05-09-2006, 05:19 AM

Interesting information, many thanks for keeping us posted.

Looks like Megaperls in Japan, may be the saviour in supplying the rest of the world these new products.

I hope that it will be possible to reversal process in a normal darkroom. I just took a light reading at 25k ASA and under fleuro lights I am getting 1/250 @ f8 for a highlight reading with the cone over the cell on my profisix meter.

That's rather amazing!

Mick.

Petzi · 05-09-2006, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Photo Engineer

Tomorrow, Kodak will reveal the worlds fastest B&W reversal film. It has a speed of 24,000. I am looking forward to that talk. Anyone want any of this one?????? Sample pictures are shown on page 220 of the ICIC 06 proceedings.

I am sure they can make a high speed film in the lab, but will they bring it to the market also?

Michel Hardy-Vallée · 05-09-2006, 07:02 AM

Ron, now that yesterday's "tomorrow" is today, do you have a link to Kodak's 24k ASA film specs, or some sort of info? Is it expected on the market at some point? Photokina?

jnanian · 05-09-2006, 09:40 AM

will the high speed films only be for scientific applications or will they be sold to the general public (and if so any idea of the format?).

HerrBremerhaven · 05-09-2006, 01:38 PM

24000 ISO sounds like surveillance film. I do lots of night shots, and would be interested. However, I would probably want to be able to pull process down to 12000, or maybe 6400. Interesting stuff indeed.

Will the new Fuji ISO 400 be available in Quickloads? Thanks for any information.

Ciao!

Gordon

sanderx1 · 05-09-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Photo Engineer

Fuji people were excited about their new 1200 speed negative film and they gave a talk on their 400 speed reversal film at the ICIS conference today. Members of their team were using a new Fuji camera with samples of the 1200 speed film. These films will only be available in Japan for the time being.

The data for the 400 speed film indicates that it should have the grain and color reproduction of their 100 speed reversal films.
PE

So that 400 speed reversal film would be one step beyond the announced Provia 400X? Or was it just Provia 400X?

Photo Engineer · 05-09-2006, 09:06 PM

The film Fuji announced was indeed Provia X, but they showed us data on it compared to their current 100 speed film. It looks great. They showed nothing about the 1200 speed film. Dr Tani from Fuji was using some in his camera, and I got to use it to take a few pictures of him and his group, and then they took one of some of us old guys from EK. I had dinner with him and his wife, and during the talk he only said that it was now on sale in Japan or soon would be. He was not sure either, as it was so new.

I will have more on the Kodak film later, but basically Kodak is doing something unprecendented. One of the inventors handed out PREORDER FORMS at the ICIS meeting soliciting orders from potential customers to see what the customer base would be like. Based on this, if Kodak gets enough orders, then they will make a trial run of it. It is a panchromatic 24,000 speed reversal B&W film that is thermally developed.

I saw the pictures today, taken at a speed of 24,000 and they are truly amazing! It is the worlds fastest film. And, Fuji reps present at the meeting did not deny it!

I will scan in the form after the ICIS meeting is over and I have the authors permission to post it on APUG. I just got in and it is late.

There were a few APUG members there too. It was nice to see them and chat with them. Some of them are EK people or ex EK people who prefer to remain anonymous but they were there and gave me some encouragement.

Regards to you all.

PE

roteague · 05-09-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HerrBremerhaven

Will the new Fuji ISO 400 be available in Quickloads? Thanks for any information.

Provia 400X is not going to be available in QuickLoads. 120 will be the largest size, from what I read of the announcement.

http://www.fujifilmusa.com/JSP/fuji/...X_Brochure.pdf

I asked the Fuji rep in Toronto about this film and he said it would not be available until September at the earliest.

Photo Engineer · 05-11-2006, 04:11 PM

Unless I see interest in the advance order form from Kodak for the new high speed film, I will not go to the trouble of scanning it in and posting it.

I thought that this first by EK would generate more interest.

PE