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    I ended up making an order with Phobatec for 400 rolls of film.
    They are giving me PanF+ in 120 for 2.20 euros a roll which is quite good and they took my greek tax registration details with no further paperwork so I escape the german tax.
    The shipping is 25 euros and the bank wants 15 euros for the money transfer which is also pretty good.
    It all sounds great and I will soon have PanF+ to last me for some time!
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    The bank transfer should be (almost) free of further charges when using the right IBAN - BIC/Swift codes. We are paying Eur. 0,06 for each int. bank transfer in the Euro zone.

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    Greek banks are incredible crooks. They'll charge money for things you can't imagine.

    Ask around, Ari. Some banks ask for more, some for less money for a EU transfer. Try Emporiki and Ethniki, or even Kyprou. Stay away from Alpha and Eurobank...

    I told you you could escape paying the VAT...

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    Greek banks are incredible crooks
    ALL banks are crooks

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    I am writting to let you know that everything went well.
    I used the online banking system of Alpha and the charge is as low as you mention, nothing like the 15e they wanted at the desk.

    Nordofoto send me an offer as well, unfortunately too late, as I had placed the order with PhoBaTec:
    200x ILFORD Pan F 120 2,19 Euro without 19% TAX (2,61 inclusive)
    300x ILFORD Pan F 120 2,09 Euro without 19% TAX (2,49 inclusive)
    The shipping costs for this article would be 31,50 Euro without 19% TAX (37,49 inclusive).

    So, in all, you can get very cheap film in Europe if you buy in quantities.
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    Yes, fortunately the online transfer charges are low (I think it's like that because they cannot cheat like they do when you do it at the counter. Imagine that they once changed the name of the person recieving the money in order to raise the charges !!!).

    31.50 is a bit high (Fotoimpex charges only 15 euro, I think) for shipping, but the overall deal sounds good.

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    Lotsa film

    Now this is a healthy order of film!
    One cannot blame me now for not supporting the medium!
    Ilford should be giving away a teddy bear or something with
    each such order.

    Now let's see how I am gonna fit all that in the fridge
    and leave a small corner for edible material. My cameras
    need pleanty of food but so does the human operator...

    (400 x PanF+ in 120, 25 x HP5+ and FP4+ in 135)
    (I am sure some of you get much more, but must be a record
    nowadays in Greece atleast)
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Papantoniou View Post
    31.50 is a bit high (Fotoimpex charges only 15 euro, I think) for shipping, but the overall deal sounds good.
    I had some doubts about transport cost and made some askings. It seems making export/import and custom/tax documentation is costly, that is offices (companies) registered to do that job charge high prices for preparing that documentation. Transport itself is not that pricely. For example I payed last time 60 EURO for 19kg heavy parcel. Transport alone (without documentation) is about 20 EURO, 40 EURO is price of documentation... That depend of country, and it seems it depend if your seller have some arrangment with company who prepares needed documentation.

    Simillar as for transpot, some companies pay full (high) prices for sending products with courriers (UPS, DHL...) other companies have arrangements with courriers and have low(er) prices when sending products with same courrier...
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    Mmm...now rumour has it that on the wall of the Ilford board room there is a picture of a certain A.G. with the caption : Our Benefactor.

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    Ari is on our "black" list now.
    (Together with the Forte company )

    Financial heavy weight........ :rolleyes:

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