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    Ilford Hardener still in production?

    I am looking forward to buying hardener. Is Ilford hardener still in production?
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    It doesn't seem to be listed in Ilford's Product Availability list of February 2007. On the site there is a request for products so you could complete that and see what happens. Also I think Kodak may still make a fixer with hardener incorporated.

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    Why are you looking for a hardener? It's unnecessary and won't bring anything useful if you are manually processing modern b&w materials...

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    Of course, it 's not necessary with modern films. But there are still antic films like efke or foma. They may require some.
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    Aurelien,
    If you require hardener for Efke 25, you can buy Tetenal hardener which is (I think) still made and should be availlable in France.

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    Yes, I bought it thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelien View Post
    Of course, it 's not necessary with modern films. But there are still antic films like efke or foma. They may require some.
    No, you don't need it. I've always used ordinary rapid fixer and (gasp!) even stop bath. None of the famed pinholes, nor seeing the entire emulsion fall off the base.

    Try without first, and you'll know whether you need it.
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    "...It's unnecessary...."

    You ever washed your film in 90F or higher cold tap water? I do it every summer. I use hardening fixer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Shively View Post
    "...It's unnecessary...."

    You ever washed your film in 90F or higher cold tap water? I do it every summer. I use hardening fixer.
    Why would one do that? There's the Ilford wash sequence.
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    I don't use the Ilford wash sequence. I'm an atheist in that regard. But if I did, I would use tap water and still be at square one.

    Kodak Rapid Fix with hardener, HCA and a 10 minute wash works wonderfully.

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