Resurrection of some former Agfa products

[Jersey Vic]

I would really appreciate it if you could (also) reproduce 118 as it was as although a 'traditional' matt paper would be welcome as well.

Thanks Again and good luck.

Victor

[Photo Engineer]

I have several of the formulas such as Portriga and Brovira, and I have the Cadmium here on the shelf. Just give me some time.

Actually, my Brovira / Kodabromide looks pretty good so far.

PE

[juan]

Originally Posted by Photo Engineer

I have several of the formulas such as Portriga and Brovira, and I have the Cadmium here on the shelf. Just give me some time.

Actually, my Brovira / Kodabromide looks pretty good so far.

PE

Dammit, PE, get crackin'.
We want more, more, more.
juan

[Ian Grant]

Don't we all Ron, these formulae were released by the allies after WWII. The books (Glafkides) are however extremely difficult to find. I read a copy which belonged to the french Autochrome company, well more strictly a grandson of the owners.

I had the Cadmium on my shelf, last used in a white toner :-) Think deviant coat emulsion on a black pase process then tone white !!!!! Was a very dirty white though :-)

Ian

Originally Posted by Photo Engineer

I have several of the formulas such as Portriga and Brovira, and I have the Cadmium here on the shelf. Just give me some time.

Actually, my Brovira / Kodabromide looks pretty good so far.

PE

[Photo Engineer]

Of course, the old Agfa formulas are well known, but the Kodak formulas are not except those used at EFKE to the current day.

Neither can be easily duplicated due to the change in gelatin between then and now unless one can get the analogs to the old, unoxidized gelatins.

So, I have to 'fudge' to get things to work properly with current US and French gelatins which are available to me. Anyone taking the published Brovira formula with a current photo grade gelatin would be sadly dissapointed with the results. In fact, this is true of all of the formulas currently published in texts.

PE

[PHOTOTONE]

Originally Posted by Photo Engineer

Of course, the old Agfa formulas are well known, but the Kodak formulas are not except those used at EFKE to the current day.


PE

This is a very curious observation. What Kodak formulas would Efke be using? I thought Efke was once a part of the Dupont family of photo companies? Or, acquired formulas from Dupont?

[Photo Engineer]

I was given to believe that EFKE was at one time, a Kodak plant. I was told that since it was taken over during the war there were captured Kodak formulas there from the pre 1940s.

If it was not so, then they don't directly use old Kodak formulas, but from what I have seen, they use an old Kodak coater and emulsion making equipment. In addition, captured Kodak formulas from European factories do exist in their pre 1940 embodiments in Europe. Some companies use analogs to these for their products to this day, as well as using Agfa analogs.

In fact, Kodak Azo paper and Agfa Lupex are very similar, as are Brovira and Kodabromide.

PE

[PHOTOTONE]

I was under the impression that Efke was originally Adox, and Adox was at one time part of the Dupont group. Efke do currently make the Adox films.

[Nick Zentena]

Originally Posted by Photo Engineer

I was given to believe that EFKE was at one time, a Kodak plant. I was told that since it was taken over during the war there were captured Kodak formulas there from the pre 1940s.

That was Forte?

[PHOTOTONE]

Originally Posted by Photo Engineer

I was given to believe that EFKE was at one time, a Kodak plant. I was told that since it was taken over during the war there were captured Kodak formulas there from the pre 1940s.


PE

The recently closed Forte plant was once a Kodak plant, and yet their last products do not resemble Kodak products to my knowledge. Although many of their products were very good.