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    Kodak's Comments on 35mm

    Hi All,

    I'm not sure if this has already been addressed on APUG but I found an interesting article on 35mm and it's inherent viability as a media. A leading scientist discusses how much and how 35mm film captures information, a well as touching upon other topics.

    Here is the link...

    http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/ne...odriguez.jhtml
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    Just to be clear, this article is about 35mm cine film, and the comparisons to digital are to digital video.
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    I agree with David, but must add that this information applies to all film to digital comparisons regarding image content and image stability.

    And, BTW, those are some of the WORST photomicrographs and electron micrographs that I have ever seen. C'mon Kodak, you used to do better work than that!

    What happened? Is your microtome dull? What?

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    Probably of some relevance to still photography is that 35mm used in a motion picture context is closer to half frame 35mm still photography (depending upon aspect ratio). There is a device called a Vistacam that shoots full 24mm by 36mm images, though I only know of a few people using this, mostly for producing television commercials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    I agree with David, but must add that this information applies to all film to digital comparisons regarding image content and image stability.
    Agreed Ron. 35mm has the capability of storing a lot more data than any digital camera. Unfortunately, the world is convinced otherwise.
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    I recently went to see the Bourne Ultimatum and could see that it was either shot digitally or processed digitally before being written to film. The pixelation was noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerrBremerhaven View Post
    Probably of some relevance to still photography is that 35mm used in a motion picture context is closer to half frame 35mm still photography (depending upon aspect ratio). [/URL]
    Which makes me wonder if this statement (in answer to the first question):
    "A single frame of color film scanned at 4K by 3K resolution with 10-bit depth contains about 50 megabytes of data. However, there is actually a lot more information than that on each frame of 35mm film. We have conducted tests where we have scanned film at 6K by 4K resolution at 10-bit depth, resulting in about 100 megabytes of data, or twice as much image information."

    ...is in reference to scanning a full frame 24x36 or a half frame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddym View Post
    ...is in reference to scanning a full frame 24x36 or a half frame?
    That would be the cine 35mm frame, which is about half the still 35mm frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    That would be the cine 35mm frame, which is about half the still 35mm frame.
    That's what I thought. That means... that there is the potential for making a 200mb scan from a 35mm neg!
    Wow!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddym View Post
    That's what I thought. That means... that there is the potential for making a 200mb scan from a 35mm neg!
    Wow!!!
    I often make 200MB scans from transparencies - in fact, I spent the entire day yesterday, doing just that.
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