Kodak has been shooting itself in the foot for several years, on one hand it keeps telling us that it is committed to film and at least color paper, then on the other hand some idiot tossed out a press release that was not well thought out. I dont know that the grand scheme is, but p####ing off or scaring its analog customers is not helpful.
Originally Posted by Ian Grant
Another dumb ass reporter placing his spin on things. Check out official EK news on the NYSE, and the words are different.
Originally Posted by kjsphoto
Of course given the hatred for Kodak at APUG, why does this not surprise me.
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It isn't any surprise to me either, and may explain why Kodak does not visit APUG visibly. They are tired of the verbal abuse. Yes, they can do things better, but I'm sure that both Ilford and Kentmere could do things differently in some areas as could Fuji.
These people have to remember that while trying to stay in the film business to supply them with analog products, Kodak sales dropped 90%! They are therefore in rather difficult shape trying to keep their heads above water while trying to move to digital and at the same time to try to supply new and improved quality analog products.
Actually, I don't think anyone in this thread has been bashing Kodak at all. Now the reporter for the Globe and Mail has taken a hell of a trashing - but it's well-deserved.
But, this thread does remind me I want to pick up a couple of rolls of 135 Portra for our upcoming weekend trip down to Maryland.
It's a pleasure to read your comments, PE. They are always correctly written!
Originally Posted by Photo Engineer
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I think Kodak is implying a digital GROWTH strategy. If indeed they're giving up on their cash cow, which brings in half of their revenue, they'd be dumber than a bucket of rocks.
They can't grow with film, but they can still make money with it. Talk about a mature market...
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Not hatred, Gordon. Just confused and extreme, chronic frustration.
Originally Posted by HerrBremerhaven
Yes, undoubtedly, as has been much discussed, debated and argued about to the point of fisticuffs here in many threads.
Originally Posted by dsullivan
Welcome to APUG. While we may shoot "old school" we are not ignorant of the modern ways - after all this IS an internet forum.
And, as photographers with much experience and many skills - we are well aware of trends in the industry and the markets they serve.
The important thing is to not only continue our support of film photography but to emphasize our preference for it to newcomers.
Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson
A "mature market" does not have to be a dying one - but it can well be such if it does not "recruit" new consumers. Part of that is not 'dissing a company that has been involved in film photography almost from the beginning.
What is needed here on APUG is change in attitude toward Kodak. We need to shift from antagonism to an attitude that endorses and embraces the Company's film division.
As PE points out, why would a Kodak rep ever come onto this site? It would be like asking Marie Antoinette how close she would like her hair cut!
If APUG really wants to be an influence in the continuation of film photography, it has to stop the negativity toward Kodak and seek ways of working together with it to advance our common interests.
Thanks. That is a very sensible proposition. Now, who will bell the cat and call Kodak?
BTW, don't suggest me. Many of my 'complaints' do get through to Kodak as it is. What they need is an outsider with some degree of credibility.