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View Poll Results: Would you like to see the return of Kentmere's Art range of FB papers?
Yes please! 67 74.44%
No thanks. 5 5.56%
No opinion. 18 20.00%
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Would you like to see the return of the Kentmere Art range?

What with the recent acquisition of Kentmere by Ilford/ Harman and whilst there have been a few comments hoping for the return of discontinued items.

I thought I would start this thread for everyone to show their support for any possible future re-release of Kentmere Art Classic, Art Deluxe and Art Document.

Would you like to see the return of Kentmere's former Art range of FB papers?
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Art Classic was my favorite paper for lith printing. I bought all I could afford when I found out it was discontinued. I just opened my last box a few weeks ago.

I realize if the Art line of papers is resurrected it wouldn't be exactly the same, but something similar would great.
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Old 10-18-2007, 04:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Chuck full of cadmium! (or at least lithable like the old stuff was [sniff])

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Old 10-18-2007, 04:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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As I understand the matter this paper was discontinued because the paper base was no longer available. Kentmere have, I believe, tried other bases without success. I therefore suspect that the chances of it, or a similar product being produced are minimal given the above and the commercial demand for this product. I shall husband my remaining stock for the bromoil work for which I brought it.
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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As I understand the matter this paper was discontinued because the paper base was no longer available.
That's right. Glory Mills was bought out by Felix Schoeller and Schoeller's range is not what it was.

Cadmium is (entirely understandably) illegal in paper and film, and was dropped long ago. That's what killed Super-XX, incidentally. The risk in use is trivial. The risk in manufacturing is another matter.

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Old 10-18-2007, 07:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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I loved the surface of Charcoal R, but it wasn't an easy paper to work with. I felt that if I wanted to use it, I had to target negs specifically to that paper, otherwise it was easy for the contrast to get too high.
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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I'm not familiar with any of these papers, but this thread reminded me of the rich variety of paper samples that were once sitting on the counter in a camera shop near where I lived. They were all Kodak papers, and the paper base colors, and surfaces were wonderful. This isn't a recollection from decades age, but rather one from the '90's. Sad, and unfortunate. If I'd only had the gift of foresight and the bucks to buy up and hoard scores of boxes of the stuff I admired. Oh well........I'm sure there'll be a PS emulation plug in coming in the near future....ho hum!
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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I doubt that the Ilford/Kentmere combination with result in more choices. I just hope they continue Kentmere Fineprint VC fiber based paper. It is the best cold toned paper I have tried. Very consistent, responsive to toner, fairly priced, and dries flat.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Dear All,

Thanks for starting this thread:

Firstly I repeat what has been said in our press release : 'we will continue to manufacture all monochrome paper products currently in the range'.

It is obviously too early for us to say anything about products that have been delisted ( for whatever reason ) by KENTMERE.

What I can do and will do is promise that I will communicate with Apuggers
regarding the above products as soon as I have anything meaningful to say.

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
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It's good to see if Kentmere/Ilford can't bring back the old papers, it will continue to make the current line-up.
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