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    Hmmmm....a car that can run on coffee...if Photo-Engineer can make home brewed AZO----???
    I'm tempted to pour a grande into the the ol' 240D and she what she does!
    I wonder if Torani qualifies as a "high test" additive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    That is what I would sell it for.

    Just go price sheets of Baryta paper in 11x14 size. I have to use 11x14 to make 8x10 to cut off the selvedge and the startup and shutdown marks. So, lets say $0.60 for 1 sheet of raw paper.

    Hot water, cold water, electricity, silver nitrate (at about $300 / 1/2 KG), analytical grade salts, photo grade gelatin; these all run up the total as do the amortization on the blades, hotplate and then there is my time.

    This is not production, it is hand made, so if I made it tomorrow, you would have to factor in the fact that I would charge you for my IRE at having to miss the Bills game.

    So, I'm confused as to what has confused you. A lab can stamp out photos for the masses or you can print a hand made exclusive custom enlargement. Which is more expensive? Can you tell me why you are confused? I am not in the production or even 'handmaking' business. I'm doing a few sheets for friends and have estimated roughly what it would cost if I charged for it.

    PE
    As a fellow Bills fan, I'd NEVER ask you to work during a Bills game. I don't!
    We just don't see them very much down here in Richmond, VA. I was offered a ticket to today's game, but passed :0( because today is one of the few days they will actually be on TV.

    I guess my question should have been....how much are the raw materials for producing 800 sheets of 8x10 PE Azo? I already own the heater/stirrer and have a blade on order, so those costs are sunk to me. I'll be first in line for your book and DVD.

    As always, thanks for sharing your considerable knowledge with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Right now, Fuji makes an Azo type paper but does not sell it in the US AFAIK.
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    What is the full name of this paper and where is being sold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC Conrad View Post
    What is the full name of this paper and where is being sold?
    You will have to search for that one. I have forgotten the details. Several people have commented on it here in this thread and elsewhere but not by name. AFAIK, it is only sold in Japan.

    PE

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    John;

    You can cost it out easily just by looking in supply catalogs for the chemistry in an earlier post here. It is beyond the scope of this forum to search out each supplier and list the prices, as they vary so much. I buy almost everything from the Formulary, because I have gotten familiar with their chemicals and the quality is just fine for my work. I can get everything I need in one order that way.

    In fact, Bud had told me earlier that he would be stocking more chemicals for emulsion making, and I now see that he has put that information up on his web site.

    PE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Sales of Polycontrast IV, both FB and RC were not all that bad.
    The one Kodak paper I really miss is Elite. I loved the weight of the base paper, and it had really nice tones. Unfortunately, I only caught the tail end of its production. It doesn't seem to keep well either, as I've tried some old paper and it was fogged right from the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    John;

    You can cost it out easily just by looking in supply catalogs for the chemistry in an earlier post here. It is beyond the scope of this forum to search out each supplier and list the prices, as they vary so much. I buy almost everything from the Formulary, because I have gotten familiar with their chemicals and the quality is just fine for my work. I can get everything I need in one order that way.

    In fact, Bud had told me earlier that he would be stocking more chemicals for emulsion making, and I now see that he has put that information up on his web site.

    PE
    That is really really cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Kadillak View Post
    I simply do not agree with your statement above.

    I have had a number of detailed conversations about this subject with Kodak management and nothing could be further from the truth. The fact is that the elimination of the paper business was actually a very positive event from a financial perspective in the sense that it positioned Kodak to consolidated their balance sheet to be in a position to survive and fight another day.

    Yes, I was disappointed as we all were that the paper business did the dirt dance but in the interest in the bigger strategic picture I accept it as a necessary evil and I have moved on.

    Onward!
    Well that's heartening to hear, although most of us don't have the benefit of a relationship with Kodak executives. Other's have alluded to Kodak's PR failure on this issue and it might be good if they were able to convince users of their genuine intention to stick around. I think that about the best thing for film user would be if the film business was split from the rest of Kodak, but that's just dreaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattg View Post
    I think that about the best thing for film user would be if the film business was split from the rest of Kodak, but that's just dreaming.
    Certainly as long as film continues to provide 50% of their gross income.



 

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