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    More Kodak discontinuations? (Ektachrome 400X + assorted others)

    OK, maybe someone who understands Kodak can translate what the following means for the rest of us. I'm typing up the following from this photograph of a page apparently from the Kodak dealer listings:
    Kodak News
    For Direct Dealer Use Only - December 2007
    PROFESSIONAL STOCKHOUSE EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES

    Selected Discontinued Listings

    The following selected listings have been discontinued and will be removed from the next KODAK PROFESSIONAL Stockhouse Equipment and Supplies Price Catalog.

    Please note: Only selected listings are being discontinued. These film families have NOT been discontinued and continue to remain available.

    Page No - CAT No - Product Description
    15 - 8079519 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL BW400CN Film / 120
    16 - 8722837 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL PLUS-X 125 Film / PX120
    19 - 1777127 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL PORTRA 160NC Film / 135-36
    20 - 8494304 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL PORTRA 160VC Film / 220 propack 20 rolls
    20 - 8560427 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL PORTRA 160VC Film / 135-36
    21 - 1200419 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL PORTRA 400NC Film / 135-36
    21 - 1852094 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL PORTRA 400VC Film / 135-36
    25 - 8757759 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E100G / 6091 / 220 propack 5 rolls
    26 - 1306596 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E100VS / 7085 / 50 sh 4x5 in
    26 - 8644270 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E100VS / 10 sh / 8x10 in
    28 - 1739051 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 100 Plus Film / EPP220 propack 5 rolls
    29 - 1999184 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E200 / 120
    29 - 8742819 - KODAK EKTACHROME 400X Professional Film / EPL135-36 (*)
    30 - 8632267 - KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Duplicating Film EDUPE / 5044 / 135-36

    (*) EKTACHROME 400X Professional Film family is discontinued
    So it looks like Ektachrome 400X is indeed discontinued entirely despite the note at the top; should we expect that the others will follow once the remaining stocks of the other 'not discontinued' product codes are cleared out?


    You know, I'm a defender of the big K, and love my E100VS more than any other film, but it is getting increasingly depressing/difficult to rely on them from one month to the next :-(.
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    Some of this is discontinuation of medium format film in single roll packaging, so that it will only be available in 5-roll pro-packs. Some LF films are going to 10-sheet boxes, even in 4x5", which is a pain, but at least it will still be available.
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    No more Plus-X in 120? Does this mean it's still available in a pro-pack or not at all?

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    No more Portra in 135??? Damn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddym View Post
    No more Portra in 135??? Damn!
    Well, don't jump to conclusions necessarily - that's why I was asking what it meant; presumably you can still buy it in pro-packs, just not single rolls.

    (For how long is of course anyone's guess...)
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    READ CAREFULLY!

    These discontinuations concerns PACKAGINGS. For instance, "PORTRA 160VC Film / 135-36" means "a single roll of Portra in a canister, inside a cardboard package."

    Local pro stores in Montréal for a long time have been buying 135 film in propack, and just open them up to sell the individual rolls. So it's meaningless in the present circumstances.

    Distressing to look at, but it does not say anything about coating or emulsion discontinuation. As a matter of fact, it's at least a good thing in terms of cardboard economy. A propack uses a little less cardboard than 5 x 1 roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhv View Post
    READ CAREFULLY!

    These discontinuations concerns PACKAGINGS. For instance, "PORTRA 160VC Film / 135-36" means "a single roll of Portra in a canister, inside a cardboard package."

    Local pro stores in Montréal for a long time have been buying 135 film in propack, and just open them up to sell the individual rolls. So it's meaningless in the present circumstances.

    Distressing to look at, but it does not say anything about coating or emulsion discontinuation.
    Apart from EKTACHROME 400X.


    How do stores sell individual rolls from pro-packs - they sell the rolls just in the foil?! Is that not against Kodak's policy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim_walls View Post
    How do stores sell individual rolls from pro-packs - they sell the rolls just in the foil?! Is that not against Kodak's policy?
    Our local lab sells individual rolls of 35mm from propacks; after all, they are still in the cans. Not sure about 120/220 rolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim_walls View Post
    Apart from EKTACHROME 400X.

    How do stores sell individual rolls from pro-packs - they sell the rolls just in the foil?! Is that not against Kodak's policy?
    Yep, apart from 400X.

    Yep, they sell the 120 rolls in the foil, and the 135 in the plastic can. They even add a price sticker with barcode.

    Given that I've seen that behaviour at the two biggest stores in Montréal, I gather that Kodak is not losing sleep on that one. I know nothing about Kodak's policies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    Some of this is discontinuation of medium format film in single roll packaging, so that it will only be available in 5-roll pro-packs. Some LF films are going to 10-sheet boxes, even in 4x5", which is a pain, but at least it will still be available.
    It's the arbitrariness I find a little worrying. I mean, take E100VS; why discontinue the 50 sheet packs in 4x5", but the 10 sheet packs in 8x10"? That doesn't sound like standardising on 10 sheet packs - it sounds more like "this is the stuff we're running out of and we're not bothering to make any more."

    I could just be paranoid of course .
    Last edited by tim_walls; 12-12-2007 at 04:09 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: Punctuation.
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