Could Ilford make Polaroid?

[AgX]

http://filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=1145.0

Well not completely true but they are sending out positive vibes! I am sure Simon Galley will let us know what the their thoughts are at some stage!

And what about the colour materials??

Does that mean I had to send an e-mail to Ilford Imaging in Marly????

[Leon]

You can be certain that anything at this stage is purely exploratory on Ilfords behalf. But if something was possible to do then Ilford Harman would be the people to do it.

so would it then become Ilfaroid or polaford - perhaps Harmaroids - hand on, that sounds like something entirely different!

[Akki14]

so would it then become Ilfaroid or polaford - perhaps Harmaroids - hand on, that sounds like something entirely different!

That's what you get when you sit in a darkroom for too long.

[David A. Goldfarb]

That's what you get when you sit in a darkroom for too long.

Actually, I think that's what you get when you sit at the computer too long.

[Fintan]

so would it then become Ilfaroid or polaford - perhaps Harmaroids - hand on, that sounds like something entirely different!

Harmaroid 55, beautiful, I'll take a dozen boxes sir!

Thanks for the laugh Leon, I needed it.

[David A. Goldfarb]

Ya know, if Ilford could make a P/N instant film with something like FP4+ as the neg and the Type 55 Positive as the print, they might even come out about the same speed, which would be a major improvement over Type 55.

If the neg were slightly faster than the print, there should be enough latitude in the neg that you could expose for the print and have a good neg. With Type 55, the neg was about a stop slower than the print, so unless the light was flat enough that you could split the difference, you had to choose whether to expose for the neg or for the print.

[Ian Grant]

The best scenario would be an Ilford/Fuji joint project to continue Polaroid films. Fuji manufacturing the colour emulsions, Ilford manufacturing the B&W and then Ilford confectioning/packaging both the colour & B&W products, then Fuji distribute them. Polaroid would almost give away machinery as it would be scrapped anyway just to keep the good-will of past users.

Ian

[Alex Bishop-Thorpe]

The best scenario would be an Ilford/Fuji joint project to continue Polaroid films. Fuji manufacturing the colour emulsions, Ilford manufacturing the B&W and then Ilford confectioning/packaging both the colour & B&W products, then Fuji distribute them. Polaroid would almost give away machinery as it would be scrapped anyway just to keep the good-will of past users.

Ian

This is what I was thinking, play on each of their strengths - I'm impressed to even see a response from Harman, actually. I wasn't expecting Delta 25 to ever be seriously considered either though (even if it was dismissed), so I guess the analogue world is still full of surprises. Maybe things just got a bit less depressing.

[Martin Reed]

Presumably, the problems of IR are also problems for Ilford with SFX. And as for working in darkness... Do you think they make HP5+ with the lights on? :-D. All panchromatic films require manufacturing in total darkness.
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This a bit of an aside in this thread, but IR viewing devices, including goggles are standard practice in any photographic manufacturing plant, and when wearing a set it's almost the same as working in daylight. (But of course they cannot be used with IR sensitive films).

For a demonstration of their use see the end section of the film 'The Silence of the Lambs'. We've got a set we use in the lab at Silverprint - the downside is it gets one very lazy at spiral loading technique

[tim_walls]

This a bit of an aside in this thread, but IR viewing devices, including goggles are standard practice in any photographic manufacturing plant, and when wearing a set it's almost the same as working in daylight. (But of course they cannot be used with IR sensitive films).

For a demonstration of their use see the end section of the film 'The Silence of the Lambs'. We've got a set we use in the lab at Silverprint - the downside is it gets one very lazy at spiral loading technique

Don't worry, I was only teasing him at the idea that 'normal' film didn't need to be made in darkness . I thought they had IR cameras in fact on the coating line at Mobberley, although that could be my imagination...



I ahve to say, I'd be amazed if Ilford took up production of any Polaroid materials, and more than a little worried about what it would do to the future of the company... Don't get me wrong, on the one hand I'd be delighted to have Polaroid materials stick around (and preferably at a more reasonable price - 20 sheets of Type 79 cost >US$160 over here at the moment :o), but I'd rather Ilford didn't go down the tubes because of the costs of doing it...

The happiest most realistic outcome for me I can think of at the moment would just be if Fuji could start making their existing emulsions in single-sheet format, and over the slightly longer term maybe introduce two new types - a neg/pos type-55-a-like and a colour emulsion more suited to lifts along the lines of type 69.