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Old 03-04-2008, 05:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Jaques,

That's what I meant with those `trendy´ subgroups.


Mirko,

I do not doubt the quality of Agfa's papers. And I appreciate the risk of the entrepeneur you took by trying to re-make these papers. (There are so many people here at Apug whining about products disappearing, but few to take initiatives...)

But time goes on, why reinventing the wheel? (I must admit though, through my historic interest I am looking back a lot of time myself...)
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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In case of our "project-products" (MCP, MCC, APX) all of them are still in the channel and we try to keep them there.
I think you have chosen some of the right products to reintroduce.

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Old 03-05-2008, 02:07 AM   #23 (permalink)
 
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But isn't remaking a product once existing just looking back into the past?
First of all, I like that a lot of good products, some of them old(er) ones, stay on the market. Therefore it is good to see that Adox/Fotoimpex keeps old Adox (made by Efke) available, as well as OrWo NP15 (Adox Pan 25) and will do so for Agfa APX25/100/400. For the same reasons it is good to see that Maco brings replacements for Technical Pan (ATP), Scala (Superpan 200) as well as OrWo NP15 (Rollei PAN 25).

On the other hand it would also be nice to see some totally new products, but who is going to be ready willing and able to do so? Kodak? Fuji? Ilford? Agfa-Gevaert? Foma?

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Old 03-05-2008, 02:50 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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On the other hand it would also be nice to see some totally new products, but who is going to be ready willing and able to do so? Kodak? Fuji? Ilford? Agfa-Gevaert? Foma?

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I only see Ilford and Fuji and Adox capable of releasing new stuff. Agfa dropped out a few years back and Kodak has to struggle to keep it's head up in the film business.

I would die to see a film with a 6 ISO speed (yeah keep dreaming).
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There's Adox as in Mirko/Fotoipmex who will re-introduce former Agfa products perhaps improving them on the way,and then EFKE, who happen to manufacture some of the Adox products. Could EFKE manufacture new products, probably not, but we are forgetting Foma who have emerged stronger more recently.

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I would die to see a film with a 6 ISO speed (yeah keep dreaming).
According to my first tests Rollei ATP in diluted Rodinal might be that.
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I would die to see a film with a 6 ISO speed (yeah keep dreaming).
I've got some Tasma MZ-3L that's rated at ISO 6 (or maybe it's 5). Unfortunately, the film I've got is about a decade past date and it produces blotchy and fogged negatives. I suspect improper storage. I don't know if the film is still being produced or not. You could keep an eye out on eBay, though.
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There's Adox as in Mirko/Fotoipmex who will re-introduce former Agfa products perhaps improving them on the way,and then EFKE, who happen to manufacture some of the Adox products. Could EFKE manufacture new products, probably not, but we are forgetting Foma who have emerged stronger more recently.

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The new Adoxplant should be able to bring some exciting new products. They have the technology and the know how to do so, while their rather small scale should allow them to service a small specialist market of dedicated professionals and serious amateurs. Efke is probably not able to do so because they make old style film with old style technology (nothing wrong with that...) Foma has some nice products on the market, but I have no clear view on their Research and Development capacities.

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I only see Ilford and Fuji and Adox capable of releasing new stuff. Agfa dropped out a few years back and Kodak has to struggle to keep it's head up in the film business.

I would die to see a film with a 6 ISO speed (yeah keep dreaming).
An ISO 6 film is a snap to make. Anything in the range of 3 - 12 is easily made in the home darkroom with 4 ingredients, Silver Nitrate, Sodium Bromide, Potassium Iodide, and Photo Grade Gelatin. In addition, one would need a syringe and a stirring hot plate. It would take about 3 hours of time and produce an emulsion in the range you specify. Hand coating plates is also easy.

See other posts on the exact formula and the coating methods.

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Old 03-06-2008, 09:37 PM   #30 (permalink)
 
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Default ASA 6 - have you tried B&W print?

Eastman 5302/7302 and the Polyester equivelents is about ASA 3-6, non-colour sensitised and still used a bit.

Perhaps you can find a motion picture lab that would sell you a few undreed feet from their stock? The colur stocks might also work in B&W. The current colour stock is made by the Mile and no longer has a rem-jet backing.
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