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Old 04-15-2008, 09:45 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Alright alright, I already "refrained" in post #11, could everyone else please also kindly refrain
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:52 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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Thanks, Simon. I will order some WP HP5+/FP4+ once the detail is out.

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Old 04-15-2008, 12:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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I'm really not trying to be an ass.

I have never shot film larger than 4x5", so none of this affects me in any way. I just think the reason why isn't explained clearly. Deltas are available in sheet film sizes, no?
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
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I'm really not trying to be an ass.

I have never shot film larger than 4x5", so none of this affects me in any way. I just think the reason why isn't explained clearly. Deltas are available in sheet film sizes, no?
Delta 100 is available in sheet sizes, but not 400. The reason not to offer Delta 100 is that there wouldn't be enough sales of two medium-speed films to justify offering special cuts in both emulsions, so it's going to be FP4+ or Delta 100, but not both. I assume the decision to go with FP4+ is based on the popularity of FP4+ among sheet film users.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
 
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... we are aware many people have requested we add a DELTA emulsion, this would obviously dilute sales and I have previously explained we need to cover the higher finishing and waste costs...
The magic words are: "dilute sales" and "higher ... costs". Given the sales volumes for ULF film it would be commercially daft for anyone to produce two fast films and two slow films in ULF. Personally I'm very grateful that Ilford make ANY film in ULF sizes. That they are prepared to make such a wide variety of sizes is a testament to their support for the film community. So thanks again Simon!
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
 
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Simon,

Any possibility of a few boxes of 9 1/2 x 20" HP5?

Thanks.
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Old 04-20-2008, 02:56 PM   #27 (permalink)
 
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Just how many boxes of Delta would sell instead of FP4... while I don't know for sure I do know this.
Delta 100 in sheets hardly sells at all, while FP4 gets the highest sales of any of the sheet films. Now I happen to use Delta 100 myself in 8x10 but I'm my largest customer by far. Making Delta available in the ULF wouldn't be worth the effort as far as sales go.

Since you're listening Simon.... I would use a least one box of SFX200 in 8x10 a year.... in case this additional sale pushes it over the limit and makes it a go. Plus I think one other photographer thought he might use a box a year as well ... so that's two orders already. LOL

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Old 06-27-2008, 07:53 AM   #28 (permalink)
 
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Help!!! Can't decide how much of what film to get. My 7x17 has literally just arrived and I've not put any film though it. FP4+ or HP5+. Everything I've read points to HP5+ for the extra speed with smaller apertures required for DOF. Although I would like to do some Pd printing and HP5+ doesn't seem to generate enough contrast from some texts I've read. Both Pd and 7x17 are pretty new to me but the Ilford ULF order deadline is upon us. How much is anyone buying. Literally a years supply or laying down some?
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:29 AM   #29 (permalink)
 
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keeds - Ian Leake uses HP5 for his pt/pd prints.
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:44 AM   #30 (permalink)
 
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I use HP5+ and Fp4+ for Silver print with Azo and also, but not so frequentely, for Pd/Pd, and I love both of them.
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