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So was the Bergger - I'm not worried about paper speed, if anything, slow paper works better because it gives you more time to deal with complex burning/dodging sequences if needed. More important to me is tonality, contrast control, and responsiveness to toners. The Kentmere was fast, contrasty, and not very responsive to toners.
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 Originally Posted by TheFlyingCamera As someone who was a serious addict to Bergger papers before the Forte factory shutdown, I have tried the Foma fiber papers and liked them very much. Frankly, I liked them better than Kentmere, which I find too contrasty. Give the Foma a try - it handles very well, and they have some surfaces that are unavailable from anyone else to boot. I also find Kentmere FB a bit contrasty and actually like that. I must say that I have not much experience with other brand FB papers. The only other paper I have used is (was) Agfa FB. This was also very good, but it went fragile when wet. I often damaged it (folds) during washing and transportation. This is much better with Kentmere. Maybe its base is just somewhat thicker.
There is probably better or at least equal to Kentmere out there. But I know Kentmere and stick by it. Everybody has their own favourite.
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I know we are sidetracking here, but it's funny to hear yourself looking for british paper and myself trying to get European paper...I love Foma 332 (RC paper) very expensive in the UK and even more costly to ship from CZ. It doesn't help that they only sell it in sheets of 10 making it not very cost effective. So I have to buy British and then sepia tone to get an actual warmtone.
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 Originally Posted by Gary Holliday I know we are sidetracking here, but it's funny to hear yourself looking for british paper and myself trying to get European paper... Wow...! Britain no longer is part of Europe?! -
 Originally Posted by Q.G. Wow...! Britain no longer is part of Europe?!  As long as we keep the pound then no -
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Oh and just to add my bit about Retro.....I've ordered from them twice and both times my orders were handled terribly with bad communication when he didnt have the stock and long waits for refunds.
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 Originally Posted by Gary Holliday I know we are sidetracking here, but it's funny to hear yourself looking for british paper and myself trying to get European paper...I love Foma 332 (RC paper) very expensive in the UK and even more costly to ship from CZ. It doesn't help that they only sell it in sheets of 10 making it not very cost effective. So I have to buy British and then sepia tone to get an actual warmtone. You know the thing of the grass being greener on the other side?
I don't know the Foma 332 paper. FotoImpex has it, but only in 10-packs (except the smallest size paper, that comes in 100-packs). Have you tried ordering from FotoImpex instead of directly from CZ? Maybe FotoImpex is cheaper.
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 Originally Posted by mealers As long as we keep the pound then no  Would you now be confusing economics, or politics, or both, with geography? -
Just asked FotoImpex to remove the link to Retro.
I just sent an email to FotoImpex asking them to consider removing the link on their site to Retro (which they call "Foto Impex England").
I have included a link to this thread.
Maybe fewer people will me misled (like I was) after removal, into buying from quirky (call it bad if you like) Retro.
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I ordered two lots of IR film from them in error on the same day and only ever received one although I have 2 bills of sale. When I email them I was informed that they were out of stock and I would receive the second lot a week later. That's 3 months ago now and despite my emails I've not heard from them since. Expensive film what!
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