Terrible experience with Retro Photographic. Don't know how to proceed. Help needed.

[Gary Holliday]

You know the thing of the grass being greener on the other side?
I don't know the Foma 332 paper. FotoImpex has it, but only in 10-packs (except the smallest size paper, that comes in 100-packs). Have you tried ordering from FotoImpex instead of directly from CZ? Maybe FotoImpex is cheaper.

Unfortunately it's only available in a pack of 10 which is quite bizarre. I'll need to do some lobbying.

Also, the UK is not in Europe geographically speaking

[roy]

What brought you to include the Retro-link in the first place? Was Retro a better place in the old days? Just wondering aloud

Yes. Time was when the proprietor answered the telephone and communicated by email without much of a problem. I have purchased from them in the past but not recent past ! It would be sensible for them to post in this thread to explain but there has been so much adverse comment that bad experiences by some would probably prevail.

[Q.G.]

Also, the UK is not in Europe geographically speaking

So where is it then? The Americas?

[tim_walls]

Wow...! Britain no longer is part of Europe?!

Ahh, "Fog In Channel - Continent Isolated." Still makes me laugh...


Anyway, you're fighting a losing battle here. I'm afraid 'Europe' is commonly used colloquially to mean 'continental Europe' - it's not intended as a slur on anyone's ambitions of Ever Closer Union, it's just a matter of convenience.

Learn to live with it. Petty whining about things like that is what gives pro-EU campaigners a bad name.

[André E.C.]

Of course Great Britain isn't Europe, it's just a rock in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.



Cheers



André

[Q.G.]

Ahh, "Fog In Channel - Continent Isolated." Still makes me laugh...


Anyway, you're fighting a losing battle here. I'm afraid 'Europe' is commonly used colloquially to mean 'continental Europe' - it's not intended as a slur on anyone's ambitions of Ever Closer Union, it's just a matter of convenience.

Learn to live with it. Petty whining about things like that is what gives pro-EU campaigners a bad name.

Makes me laugh too, Tim.

Now an advanced warning: the following is all in jest, and should be taken that way.

The idea that this is a matter of fighting a battle, or of whining about belonging or not belonging to a union, could only arise on your side of the 'continental divide' that somehow divides Britain from the rest of Europe.

It's like denying that your feet are part of your body, because else you might think yourself to be a player of that most boring game, football.
And you would hate that! So no, those feet are not yours!

And that on a scale that makes your "commonly used colloquially" quite correct.

How can that not make you laugh?

[tim_walls]

Makes me laugh too, Tim.

Now an advanced warning: the following is all in jest, and should be taken that way.

The idea that this is a matter of fighting a battle, or of whining about belonging or not belonging to a union, could only arise on your side of the 'continental divide' that somehow divides Britain from the rest of Europe.

It's like denying that your feet are part of your body, because else you might think yourself to be a player of that most boring game, football.
And you would hate that! So no, those feet are not yours!

And that on a scale that makes your "commonly used colloquially" quite correct.

How can that not make you laugh?

Amusing, but a non-sequitur.

You'll note that I was very careful to refer to pro-EU - i.e. the political construct that is the European Union - campaigners, not pro-Europe. And for those of us that believe in democracy - which is, I grant, not true of all EU member states and manifestly not true of Brussels - the choice of whether or not to join a political union absolutely must be a topic of debate and ultimately choice of the populace.

The idea that just because two sets of peoples share a continental shelf then they must ipso facto share political beliefs is the sort of absurd thinking that could only ever come out of Brussels or Paris.

[Q.G.]

Amusing, but a non-sequitur.

You'll note that I was very careful to refer to pro-EU - i.e. the political construct that is the European Union - campaigners, not pro-Europe. And for those of us that believe in democracy - which is, I grant, not true of all EU member states and manifestly not true of Brussels - the choice of whether or not to join a political union absolutely must be a topic of debate and ultimately choice of the populace.

The idea that just because two sets of peoples share a continental shelf then they must ipso facto share political beliefs is the sort of absurd thinking that could only ever come out of Brussels or Paris.

Indeed. Couldn't agree more that that would be absurd.

However, the absurdity that surfaced here was the idea that people do not "share a continental shelf" because they do not agree on politics.

There was no opposite idea, that might "come out of Brussels or Paris", ever suggested.

Noone (note!) said that Britain was part of Europe, 'because' it should share the same political ideal, join the Union, or anything silly like that.

See now what makes me laugh?


Anyhow. Way off topic. I apologize.
(Still makes me laugh though. )

[tim_walls]

See now what makes me laugh?

Not really. The idea of getting offended or even amused whenever someone shortens "continental Europe" to "Europe" seems bizarre to me.

People frequently refer to "Britain" (or, say, "Grand-Bretagne") when they actually mean "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" (or "le Royaume-Uni de Grand-Bretagne et d'Irlande du Nord,") despite the fact they are two quite distinct constructs, but it's not as a rule something people get terribly exercised over. It's one of life's mysteries why certain of our continental friends are apparently incapable of applying the same pragmatism when we refer to continental Europe.

Anyhow. Way off topic. I apologize.

Quite right, good point, here's not the place for a discussion on the EU.

TO be vaguely on-topic - I've had similar problems with Retro Photographic in the past, in particular with poor communication (more accurately, none whatsoever) when things turn out to be out of stock and have been backordered, but they have got the goods to me in the end, for what it's worth.

[Q.G.]

Not really. The idea of getting offended or even amused whenever someone shortens "continental Europe" to "Europe" seems bizarre to me.

Sure.

But noone did either of the two.


Anyway, still way off topic, so no more.