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01-23-2009, 05:55 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, OR, USA
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| Simon,
Can you talk at all about what form this new venture may take? Will development be aimed primarily at SX-70-type films, or is Harmann exploring other Polaroid formats as well?
Thank you,
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01-26-2009, 04:02 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cheshire UK
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| Dear Patrick,
I am afraid its too early to 'scope' the project.
Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology |
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01-31-2009, 01:12 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Freiburg, Germany & Huntsville, AL
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| Just a related idea... Since we lost Kodak Readyload films because it was assembled by Polaroid in the US, would it be possible that this cooperation might at one point in time lead to something like "Ilfoload"?! Since Enschede has assembly machines, or are those only for integral film? |
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01-31-2009, 01:25 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rochester, NY
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| Readyload film from Kodak was NOT made by Polaroid AFAIK.
The structures of the packs are totally different in concept and design as well as assembly.
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01-31-2009, 01:35 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Freiburg, Germany & Huntsville, AL
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Photo Engineer Readyload film from Kodak was NOT made by Polaroid AFAIK.
The structures of the packs are totally different in concept and design as well as assembly.
PE | I know that Kodak had their own machines and assembly for years, but it was supposedly farmed out for the last years. Who was it then if not Polaroid? |
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01-31-2009, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rochester, NY
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| Kodak had the only assembly machines for this type of work that I know of. Much assembly was moved to their packaging plant in Mexico. But, AFAIK, nothing was packaged by Polaroid. If anything, Kodak did work for Polaroid until their own plants came on-line.
Can you cite a reference?
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01-31-2009, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Freiburg, Germany & Huntsville, AL
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Originally Posted by Photo Engineer Kodak had the only assembly machines for this type of work that I know of. Much assembly was moved to their packaging plant in Mexico. But, AFAIK, nothing was packaged by Polaroid. If anything, Kodak did work for Polaroid until their own plants came on-line.
Can you cite a reference?
PE | I got the third party information for Readyload assembly from the John Sexton Newsletter June 2008 ( http://www.johnsexton.com/newsletter...tml#anchor02):
" I recently spoke with Scott DiSabato, Kodak's Marketing Manager for Professional Film, in detail about the Readyload situation, and films in general. He indicated that the sales of Readyload film products had been dropping, as has been the case with most films in general. Scott also related that, since Kodak changed over to single-sheet production, the manufacturing of the Readyload envelopes and insertion of the Kodak Professional film into those envelopes had been handled by a third party under a licensing agreement and direct supervision from Kodak. Initially the minimum order quantities for these components and proper manufacturing procedures were easily obtained. However, during their most recent manufacturing run the minimum requirements equated to more than two years worth of production. Many of Kodak's Professional film products have only a 24-month dating period! This means that Kodak's business model for their Readyload products evolved to a situation where a portion of their finished film inventory would expire and have to be scrapped at a considerable cost to Kodak." |
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01-31-2009, 01:52 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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| best of luck simon!
ilford/harman are doing well
for us analog photo people.
thanks all for your support!
john |
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01-31-2009, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Freiburg, Germany & Huntsville, AL
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Originally Posted by Photo Engineer Kodak had the only assembly machines for this type of work that I know of. Much assembly was moved to their packaging plant in Mexico. But, AFAIK, nothing was packaged by Polaroid. If anything, Kodak did work for Polaroid until their own plants came on-line.
Can you cite a reference?
PE | And here is the origin where I read that this third party is Polaroid: http://www.largeformatphotography.in...polaroid+plant , 3rd post in that thread. Of course there is no proof that this was really the case |
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01-31-2009, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Leiden, Netherlands
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| It would be very brave of Ilford/Harman to step into this. Especially so in these days of digital and recession. This news will be a consideration for me to use more Ilford products. Brave initiatives need a bit of support after all. All best with the project. |
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