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    Where is Supra Endura?

    Supra Endura has been removed from KODAK website:
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...18/13335/13420

    There is only Ultra Endura left, and a digital version of Supra Endura.

    I tried to search APUG and KODAK website for information but cannot find anything.

    Don't say that Supra Endura is discontinued!?

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    I'm sad, as I am going to start color printing in the next week...
    Take a look at the first lines of this technical publication (E-4021)...
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...4021/e4021.pdf

    Can we use optically the new digital paper?

    Lorenzo

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    Kodak really can't seem to keep up with their products anymore. I guess it was another bad year for them.

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    Argh. This is insane. Supra Endura was already a high-contrast paper IMO. Now we have only Ultra endura, that is even higher in contrast. I've not tried it but probably unusable if you want normal pictures, not special effects.

    Supra Endura spec sheet says it can be exposed optically (well, why not) but that it gives high contrast and cyan neutrals.

    Unbelievable shit. What's the point in manufacturing special paper but not the normal one?

    If I had known this, I would have bought much more paper from AG-Photographic and put it to freezer.

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    This is bad news to me. I print color negative film optically and use Kodak Supra Endura paper exclusively. I've never used Fuji paper before. Being that I have to buy some new paper soon anyway, maybe now is as good a time as any?

    Tim

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    This is very bad news. Despite Fuji leaving the field open for Kodak to have a monopoly on the RA4 sheet paper market, it seems there is still not enough of a market for 2 optically exposed papers( Supra and Ultra).

    Makes you wonder how much longer any RA4 can last that is suitable for optical exposure. Looking on the bright if a little optimistic side maybe this might change Fuji's mind about sheet paper. I have never understood why Fuji consider sheet paper to be uneconomical. It's simply a question of cutting sheets with what must be existing cutting machines. Unless the increase in price was exorbitant enthusiasts would be prepared to pay the extra cost.

    It's a vicious circle as there may be adverse knock-on effects for small volume RA4 chemical suppliers such as Fotospeed and Tetenal

    pentaxuser



    Rolls are a lot of hassle unless you have a taylor-made cutting machine.

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    If this is true. What is left available in sheet form?

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    I think only Kodak Ultra Endura is currently offered in sheets...
    Regarding the "new" Supra VC digital, it states clearly on its FAQ "Sheet format is not available".
    (link: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...20/13429/13424 )
    I fear we have to study something to cut rolls...
    Sadness...

    Lorenzo

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    fuji CA was discontinued in sheet form? Freestyle still has it listed, so does B&H. I'd imagine that something would have been said loudly by either of these two about it.

    -Dan


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    This is bad news. If we are forced to print our negatives digitally then what's left of film?

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