Corporations and Big Boobs – A commentary.

[lilmsmaggie]

Unfortunately we do. We speak with our pocketbooks and wallets and apparently we're not speaking loud enough to keep the machines running.

Thanks for pointing this out. I realize we as consumers have a tendency to think this is enough and that this should be the extent of our effort but then you have to ask yourselves: "why are there lobbyists, and are they doing more than speaking with just their wallets and pocketbooks?"

Let's not get stuck there. Let's push the edge of the envelope and think outside the box. Try a little HP think and ask: "What If ..."

[DLawson]

Thanks for pointing this out. I realize we as consumers have a tendency to think this is enough and that this should be the extent of our effort but then you have to ask yourselves: "why are there lobbyists, and are they doing more than speaking with just their wallets and pocketbooks?"

Let's not get stuck there. Let's push the edge of the envelope and think outside the box. Try a little HP think and ask: "What If ..."

Perhaps you could be less vague. Other than doing business with Kodak (for those who like Kodak's products), what do you think this APUG Power should be doing?

[lilmsmaggie]

Perhaps you could be less vague. Other than doing business with Kodak (for those who like Kodak's products), what do you think this APUG Power should be doing?

I'm not being vague intentionally. I'm not saying I have the answer either but there must be something. I would think there needs to be discussion to reach consensus as to what type of action could be taken.

Some of the site's sponsors may have some ideas. I have done business with Cox's B&W lab here in the Sacramento area. I'd hate to see them go out of business as Calypso recently has. I'm sure if everyone discussed this with merchants that we patronize as well as the APUG site moderators, it could be fruitfull. Freestyle photo caters mostly to academia -- heck students are usually quite active politically and socially. I'm sure there are tons of photography students out there that enjoy, or perhaps prefer film.

We just need to organize into a coalition along the lines of a Consumer Watchdog http://www.consumerwatchdog.org or Center for Digital Democracy http://www.democraticmedia.org

I'm sure some of you Professional's must have some ideas -- and don't leave out those photography students! They are the future of photography whether they be film or digital - or BOTH!!!

[Oren Grad]

I've always shot the 400 in rolls -- I won't miss the 320 rolls in my own work, but I sympathize with those who will.

+1

[fotch]

I'm not being vague intentionally. I'm not saying I have the answer either but there must be something. .....

How about saying a prayer.

[ajuk]

It's only the 320 version, I scarcely see the point of a film only 1/3 a stop slower than another anyway.

[2F/2F]

It's only the 320 version, I scarcely see the point of a film only 1/3 a stop slower than another anyway.

I guess I will be the one to say for the millionth time on the Internet that they are totally different emulsions with different imaging characteristics, not just different-ISO versions of an otherwise identical film.

If the latter was the case, the two separate films would never have existed in the first place. It would have just been one Tri-X Pan.

[mikebarger]

I think you're actually 1,000,005 to say it, but only the 105 that actually uses it.

Mike

[Darkroom317]

Given its fiduciary responsibility to Kodak shareholders, the answer is "the dollar" by law.

We all ought to invest and become the shareholders then.

But likely Kodak will go down. I don't think that digital can save them.

[A_M_Johnson]

The thing that ticks me off the most about this is the Kodak sabotage. I shoot this in 220 and get the same story every time I try to buy it. (this goes back a long time) "We keep ordering it and it never comes"

So, I think the lack of demand was artificially manufactured by refusing to ship it, not that no one uses it any more. So now, instead of it being hard to find, it's gone forever. Shame on Kodak for abandoning a segment of it's customer base and doing so in an immoral way.