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    Quote Originally Posted by Ektagraphic View Post
    This happens to me almost once every time I am out in a populated area to shoot. It is amazing how quickly the digital revolution went.
    I truly think that the lack of marketing has something to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeDexter View Post
    What does Hollywood use B&W film for?
    The opening scene of Casino Royale was shot with Kodak b/w film (the double-x referenced above).

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    Quote Originally Posted by T42 View Post
    A few years ago Kodak changed their logo. IIRC, I read that it was to detach themselves from the common perception that they were just the big film company, or some such thing.
    By all indications that I can see, Kodak sees itself as a major-market imaging company.

    For about a century, film was both a major market and the dominant form of imaging. Now it is neither. How close the film market is to Kodak's low-water mark for not bothering, I have no clue. But it seem certain that it gets closer every quarter.

    I'm sad about it all, but not terribly surprised -- well, a bit surprised in the sense that I always took Kodak's presence in the film market for granted.

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    Dear All,

    I have posted on the other thread re the demise of some KODAK products : I do realise film choice is a very emotional thing with people...

    Suzanne R I think puts it very well, my take is similar Losing a film, any film, is actually bad news for photography and all of us who love analog photography , and anybody involved in sales knows that when one product goes, a good proportion of those sales go forever and do not move to other suppliers.

    Also, I have used KODAK products, and also known and respected KODAK as a competitor for over 25 years, they always made great products, have made some of the greatest step changes and technological advances photography has ever seen... and I am sure will continue to do so for many decades to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzanneR View Post
    Cheryl... I hear ya, and I've used it plenty for similar reasons. There were times, however, when I found it's limitations in certain light frustrating, so I would shoot the regular tri-x, and my best solution to this problem with running out of frames is having more backs for the camera. Not a perfect solution, I know, but I find changing backs easier than reloading film. I have 4 120 backs for my RZ, and I load them up ahead of time, and 4 rolls of 120 for a portrait gig seems to work well for me at 10 frames a roll in 6x7 format.

    I can process them all together, two tanks, four reels (unless the light was really changeable), and I don't have the headaches with highlights (especially when they wear white ugh...) as I found with TXP when printing.

    Hope you find a good way to deal with it. It sucks.
    Suzanne,

    It's not as big a deal on simple portrait sessions. However, this weekend I'll be in Arkansas doing an all-day shoot for an ad campaign. I typically go through at least 12 - 15 rolls of 220, which I can develop three at a time. Can you imagine how much more painful it's going to be to develop 24 - 30 rolls? And how much more expensive?

    Ugh. It makes my head hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl Jacobs View Post
    Suzanne,

    It's not as big a deal on simple portrait sessions. However, this weekend I'll be in Arkansas doing an all-day shoot for an ad campaign. I typically go through at least 12 - 15 rolls of 220, which I can develop three at a time. Can you imagine how much more painful it's going to be to develop 24 - 30 rolls? And how much more expensive?

    Ugh. It makes my head hurt.

    - CJ
    You have my profound sympathy and empathy on this. Life is too short for 120 film, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl Jacobs View Post
    Suzanne,

    It's not as big a deal on simple portrait sessions. However, this weekend I'll be in Arkansas doing an all-day shoot for an ad campaign. I typically go through at least 12 - 15 rolls of 220, which I can develop three at a time. Can you imagine how much more painful it's going to be to develop 24 - 30 rolls? And how much more expensive?

    Ugh. It makes my head hurt.

    - CJ
    I feel sorry for you but thank you for still doing some commercial work/paid portrait work on film!
    Helping to save analog photography one exposure at a time

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    Cheryl

    Have you experimented with the two 120's on a 220 reel, or two 120's back to back on a 120 reel?

    I don't shoot 220 in B&W and my 120 usage doesn't ever amount to more than four reels at one time, so I've not tried either, but I've noticed several people here use these methods.

    Just a thought,

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl Jacobs View Post
    I typically go through at least 12 - 15 rolls of 220, which I can develop three at a time. Can you imagine how much more painful it's going to be to develop 24 - 30 rolls? And how much more expensive?
    Time to start processing in Jobo tanks.
    With a big tank you can do it in two batches.
    Fast and cheap.
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    Sanders, I don't have that kind of money to invest in Jobo tanks right now. Not in this economy. Maybe in a few years.

    Mike, I haven't, simply because I'm a bit freaked out by the number of things that could go wrong. I may have to try.

    Ekta, it's what I do. I'm a film person, and I'm grateful to have clients who appreciate that.

    For my purposes this weekend, I've decided to go 35mm. It's the best compromise, although I HATE that I have to compromise on the way I want to work. It's a first for me. It's still better than the permanent digital option. Ugh. Yuck.

    - CJ



 

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