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 Originally Posted by Ektagraphic This happens to me almost once every time I am out in a populated area to shoot. It is amazing how quickly the digital revolution went. I truly think that the lack of marketing has something to do with it.
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 Originally Posted by GeorgeDexter What does Hollywood use B&W film for? The opening scene of Casino Royale was shot with Kodak b/w film (the double-x referenced above).
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 Originally Posted by T42 A few years ago Kodak changed their logo. IIRC, I read that it was to detach themselves from the common perception that they were just the big film company, or some such thing. By all indications that I can see, Kodak sees itself as a major-market imaging company.
For about a century, film was both a major market and the dominant form of imaging. Now it is neither. How close the film market is to Kodak's low-water mark for not bothering, I have no clue. But it seem certain that it gets closer every quarter.
I'm sad about it all, but not terribly surprised -- well, a bit surprised in the sense that I always took Kodak's presence in the film market for granted.
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Dear All,
I have posted on the other thread re the demise of some KODAK products : I do realise film choice is a very emotional thing with people...
Suzanne R I think puts it very well, my take is similar Losing a film, any film, is actually bad news for photography and all of us who love analog photography , and anybody involved in sales knows that when one product goes, a good proportion of those sales go forever and do not move to other suppliers.
Also, I have used KODAK products, and also known and respected KODAK as a competitor for over 25 years, they always made great products, have made some of the greatest step changes and technological advances photography has ever seen... and I am sure will continue to do so for many decades to come.
Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology LImited
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 Originally Posted by SuzanneR Cheryl... I hear ya, and I've used it plenty for similar reasons. There were times, however, when I found it's limitations in certain light frustrating, so I would shoot the regular tri-x, and my best solution to this problem with running out of frames is having more backs for the camera. Not a perfect solution, I know, but I find changing backs easier than reloading film. I have 4 120 backs for my RZ, and I load them up ahead of time, and 4 rolls of 120 for a portrait gig seems to work well for me at 10 frames a roll in 6x7 format.
I can process them all together, two tanks, four reels (unless the light was really changeable), and I don't have the headaches with highlights (especially when they wear white ugh...) as I found with TXP when printing.
Hope you find a good way to deal with it. It sucks. Suzanne,
It's not as big a deal on simple portrait sessions. However, this weekend I'll be in Arkansas doing an all-day shoot for an ad campaign. I typically go through at least 12 - 15 rolls of 220, which I can develop three at a time. Can you imagine how much more painful it's going to be to develop 24 - 30 rolls? And how much more expensive?
Ugh. It makes my head hurt.
- CJ
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 Originally Posted by Cheryl Jacobs Suzanne,
It's not as big a deal on simple portrait sessions. However, this weekend I'll be in Arkansas doing an all-day shoot for an ad campaign. I typically go through at least 12 - 15 rolls of 220, which I can develop three at a time. Can you imagine how much more painful it's going to be to develop 24 - 30 rolls? And how much more expensive?
Ugh. It makes my head hurt.
- CJ You have my profound sympathy and empathy on this. Life is too short for 120 film, isn't it?
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 Originally Posted by Cheryl Jacobs Suzanne,
It's not as big a deal on simple portrait sessions. However, this weekend I'll be in Arkansas doing an all-day shoot for an ad campaign. I typically go through at least 12 - 15 rolls of 220, which I can develop three at a time. Can you imagine how much more painful it's going to be to develop 24 - 30 rolls? And how much more expensive?
Ugh. It makes my head hurt.
- CJ I feel sorry for you but thank you for still doing some commercial work/paid portrait work on film!
Helping to save analog photography one exposure at a time -
Cheryl
Have you experimented with the two 120's on a 220 reel, or two 120's back to back on a 120 reel?
I don't shoot 220 in B&W and my 120 usage doesn't ever amount to more than four reels at one time, so I've not tried either, but I've noticed several people here use these methods.
Just a thought,
Mike
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 Originally Posted by Cheryl Jacobs I typically go through at least 12 - 15 rolls of 220, which I can develop three at a time. Can you imagine how much more painful it's going to be to develop 24 - 30 rolls? And how much more expensive? Time to start processing in Jobo tanks.
With a big tank you can do it in two batches.
Fast and cheap.
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Sanders, I don't have that kind of money to invest in Jobo tanks right now. Not in this economy. Maybe in a few years.
Mike, I haven't, simply because I'm a bit freaked out by the number of things that could go wrong. I may have to try.
Ekta, it's what I do. I'm a film person, and I'm grateful to have clients who appreciate that.
For my purposes this weekend, I've decided to go 35mm. It's the best compromise, although I HATE that I have to compromise on the way I want to work. It's a first for me. It's still better than the permanent digital option. Ugh. Yuck.
- CJ
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