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    Ilford, Kodak, Fuji, Manufacturing question

    i am curious what happens in manufacturing of film if something goes catastrophically wrong with the intended film being made. Say if its a colour film and a colour layer is ruined and the film only produces images which are
    ultra blue or if a black and white emulsion is made but has a spectral deficiency or is terribly contrasty etc... what does the manufacture do with a material if it does not meet the set parameters? does the film get destroyed?
    does it get made into a "special" product? and does anyone who had worked in an ilford, fuji or kodak plant know if such an occurance has happened?
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    They send it to Australia.

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    "Special Product":

    Polapremium offers at the moment an SX-70 technology film which turned out unstable, with dye-transfer going to completion, blackness.
    They offer it as film with kind of selfdestruction, in a nicely-made black box.
    http://www.polapremium.com/shop/film...70_1_1009_fade

    Or was that effect intended...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldie View Post
    They send it to Australia.
    hahahahaha years ago kodak had a stock which was fire damaged that they sent around Australia. I swear this isn't a lie. The paper was bad in 2 ways, the colour across it shifted from magenta to green and there were some boxes which had weird marks as though water had somehow gotten in. Kodak said nothing and hoped no one would notice, but labs here did and they complained kodak accepted all the stock back after a group of the main pro labs got together about the issue. It wasnt untill the stock was accepted back did it get revealed what had happened to it.
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    If something went wrong at a coating stage it would go for silver recovery/recycling.

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    Film base will be rceycled too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgX View Post
    Film base will be rceycled too.
    Yes but there are complications, it's relatively easy when recycling direct from the manufacturers as they can label and keep different film bases separate.

    But the experience we had reprocessing Graphics & X-ray films was that film bases were almost always mixed and impossible to sort, and the plastics recyclers wouldn't take them as a consequence. So it went for landfill.

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    Dear Stephen,

    Everything we manufacture, at all stages, is subject to rigid quality control, if it is ever out of the specified manufacturing tolerances it is destroyed and sent for silver recovery. It will be exactly the same at KODAK and FUJI.

    Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology limited :

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    Isn't there some anecdote about Fujis' Fortia SP being originally a messed up batch of Velvia that resulted in even more OTT contrast and saturation ? Apperently, so the tale goes, fuji decided to sell it as a new film for Sakura that year to see how it would get on. And lo and behold, a legend was born

    That's all probably completely untrue of course ...

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    Good story though.

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