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 Originally Posted by lilserenity  I have only seen reference to the US getting these letters but nothing on the UK just yet -- the reference for this was a recent post on JapanExposures as well as the OP.
I have e-mailed Fuji in the UK for some clarification.
Vicky Also Fujifilm's own Japanese website. The relevant part is some will go when stocks are finished.
Ian
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I can read Japanese quite well, heck its my job (Japanese/English/Chinese translating) and the problem is the Fuji Japan website does not match at all the list that was posted here. The only certain thing is Neopan 400 in 120, T64 in all flavors, and Fuji 160C in 120. Most of the rest of it involves repackaging issues, not out right discontinuances that the original poster mentions.
Gary
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Originally Posted by Ian Grant Also Fujifilm's own Japanese website. The relevant part is some will go when stocks are finished.
Ian Again, only Neopan 400 in 120, Fuji 160NC (160C) in 120, and T64 in all flavors are definate. And quickloads are gone, as well as some special order items. That is not the same as complete stopping distribution of items that the original poster listed.
Which is why we need to wait for confirmation from Fuji, not hearsay, which is all we have at this moment.
Gary
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I don't understand why Fuji would drop Neopan 400 in 120. It's been my impression that as the faster films get better and better, more people use them instead of the slower films. Does Fuji have another 400 speed black and white film, or are they surrendering that category entirely to Kodak, Ilford and the rest?
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No other classic processing ISO 400 b&w film. (But still a EI 400 b&w instant film.)
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Originally Posted by Chazzy I don't understand why Fuji would drop Neopan 400 in 120. It's been my impression that as the faster films get better and better, more people use them instead of the slower films. Does Fuji have another 400 speed black and white film, or are they surrendering that category entirely to Kodak, Ilford and the rest? I'm looking forward to the successor of 400PR this year ;-) .
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Originally Posted by coriana6jp Again, only Neopan 400 in 120, Fuji 160NC (160C) in 120, and T64 in all flavors are definate. And quickloads are gone, as well as some special order items. That is not the same as complete stopping distribution of items that the original poster listed.
Which is why we need to wait for confirmation from Fuji, not hearsay, which is all we have at this moment.
Gary Do Fuji say Gary they are going to replace 160NC and 160C in 120 ?, because a lot of wedding photographers in the World who shoot this film will be very pissed off.
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Originally Posted by Steffen Alexander I'm looking forward to the successor of 400PR this year ;-) . I take it you have information on a new Fuji 400 speed black and white film? If so, what do you know? Will it be offered in 120 and sheet film sizes?
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Originally Posted by Ian Grant Unfortunately the list has been released by Fujifilm officially to their dealers in the UK & US so there's no doubting anything written about what's discontinued.
Ian Please note that I did not read THE letter itself. I was just told three times by three different people about it. I will get in there when I get a chance.
My guesses are that the 160 films were a misread by the film counter manager, and there is a repackaging and/or a discontinuation of certain formats only in the works.
Either way, we need to be concerned if 160C is going in medium format. That is how a film's death usually begins. They drop the lowest-selling formats first, before they discontinue the emulsion entirely. (It was already gone in Quickload before all Quickload was discontinued, remember?) If nothing else, it is a hint of what is to come for color film when even a film that you'd think would be very popular (high contrast, high saturation, low grain, very sharp) is being trimmed down.
I'd also think that Astia would be one of their most popular transparency films. It's hacking does not give me much hope for E-6 films even a couple of years down the road.
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2F/2F what ever way we read things the colour market is due a huge shake up, with many films disappearing, the current availability isn't viable long term.
The BJP has predicted that E6 could disappear within a year, then look how Kodak are promoting Ektar a negative film.
The reality is except for projection E6 films no longer have purpose, there's only Ilfocchrome left as a print process except for digital and thats never been accepted as an ideal process.
Ian
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