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    Let us make one distinct point about Ilford, Kodak, and Fuji: Ilford actually COMMUNICATES with it's customers (and here, on APUG, at that!).
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

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    Still doesn't mean their business won't be in the toilet in 12 months (hope not as I use HP5+ in 4x5). I'm much more interested in how a product performs than listening to ads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikebarger View Post
    Still doesn't mean their business won't be in the toilet in 12 months (hope not as I use HP5+ in 4x5). I'm much more interested in how a product performs than listening to ads.

    Mike
    Pessimistic much?
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w9cae View Post
    In the past I have seen statements just like this from companies & days later they have done a complete turn around. Kodak are famous for this, that is why they basically have no company worth salvaging.
    Oh really? Then the high quality film they still produce counts for nothing? Please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clayne View Post
    Let us make one distinct point about Ilford, Kodak, and Fuji: Ilford actually COMMUNICATES with it's customers (and here, on APUG, at that!).
    AMEN! Fuji may have said they'd be the last man standing, but after discontinuing Neopan 400 I've lost all faith and no longer support them. I'm behind Ilford 100%. We should be greatful we have such a great company supporting us!

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    Has Neopan 400 been discontinued? I thought there was still some speculation on this mainly due to it being packaged differently and in certain markets. Anyway, I would hate to see any of the big three (Ilford, Kodak, Fuji) fold. I'm loyal to Ilford because they provide slow (Pan F+) and high speed (Delta 3200) films in 120 so a hefty portion of my film expenditures goes to these. Since I recently began shooting 135 again in the past year and a half, I've been going nuts buying up Arista Premium 400 and Legacy Pro 100 so at least some of my money is trickling back to Kodak and Fuji.

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    This is a comforting read. I just started a darkroom class and have made Delta 400 and DD-X my materials of choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcmarc View Post
    Has Neopan 400 been discontinued? I thought there was still some speculation on this mainly due to it being packaged differently and in certain markets. Anyway, I would hate to see any of the big three (Ilford, Kodak, Fuji) fold. I'm loyal to Ilford because they provide slow (Pan F+) and high speed (Delta 3200) films in 120 so a hefty portion of my film expenditures goes to these. Since I recently began shooting 135 again in the past year and a half, I've been going nuts buying up Arista Premium 400 and Legacy Pro 100 so at least some of my money is trickling back to Kodak and Fuji.
    They discontinued 400PR in 120 format. Total loss to everyone and completely angering to most involved. It's similar to Kodak doing something like discontinuing 400TX in 120 (hypothetical) as Neopan is a bread and butter stock.

    It's still available in 135 and an excellent film at that.
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

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    I have always used Ilford and will continue to do so, I support people who support my vision of photography, others don't really matter.

    Good luck Ilford, hang on!

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    I'm probably way out of the loop on this, but whatever happened to Kentmere Bromide graded paper? Is it still available? Was it discontinued? Was it stillborn during a reformulation?

    I don't recall seeing any official announcement anywhere. But nobody seems to be carrying it anymore. At least in anything resembling a full range. I do recall a press release from a year or so ago extolling the virtues of improved avenues of distribution to North America, and Bromide was explicitly mentioned.

    Was I asleep at the switch on this one?

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