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    Available 400 speed B&W in 120?

    So it's been some time since Fuji killed Neopan 400 in 120 and that leaves me wondering what exactly is left?

    I see that Freestyle has Arista Edu, but that looks like rebadged Foma. I know that Kodak still has (new/different) Tri-X. Are there any other options for B&W in 120?

    Thanks,
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    P.S. Has anyone seen a press release from Fuji that states one way or another if they're replacing Neo 400? Not wanting to speculate or pass rumors, just wondering if anyone's seen anything solid.

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    Soon there will be Holga branded 400 .......

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    Off the top of my head this is what I can remember. Check Freestyle and B&H and I am sure you will find a few more.

    Ilford:

    Pan F
    FP4
    HP5
    SFX
    Delta 100
    Delta 400
    Delta 3200 (ISO 1000)

    Kodak:

    Plus-X
    Tri-X 400
    T-Max 100
    T-Max 400

    Fuji:

    Neopan Acros 100

    Efke:

    Ortho 25
    25
    50
    100
    IR820
    IR820 Aura

    Adox:

    Ortho 25 (possibly the same as Efke Ortho 25, though I am not sure)
    CHS 25 (same as Efke 25)
    CHS 50 (same as Efke 50)
    CHS 100 (same as Efke 100)
    Possibly others that I don't know off hand

    Rollei:

    Pan 25
    Ortho 25
    IR 400
    A few more with which I am not familiar (Do they have an 80 speed and a 20 speed b/w, or is that Adox?)

    Foma:

    100
    400
    possibly more

    These are all I know off hand.
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    2F/2F beat me to the posting.

    All that counts is that you have the information. I shoot mostly Kodak Tri-X 400 in 120, Ilford HP5+ in 4x5.

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    2F/2F, nice list.
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    I don't know if you want to process in C41

    Ilford XP2 Super

    It's C41 process, but it has a clear substrate so you could print on B&W paper unlike the discontinued in 120 format Kodak BW400CN

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    Oops. I listed any 120 film, not just 400!

    ...and I left out XP2.

    Are BW400CN or the Fuji b/w C-41 film made in medium format?
    2F/2F

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    2F, you're a mensch. The top of your head is a more, er, active place than mine!

    BW400CN has been terminated in MF, sadly.
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    Thanks, Mike. I know all of these films exist because I have used most of them at some point or another, even if not regularly; all except the Foma and the Efke Aura. I also work near Freestyle, so I am in there frequently.

    So, for 400 it looks like:

    HP5
    Delta 400
    XP2
    Tri-X
    T-Max 400
    Foma 400
    Rollei IR 400
    ...and probably some more that I don't know (possibly including Fuji's b/w C-41 film, which I have never tried)

    I'd say that if you liked Neopan 400, then Delta 400, T-Max 400, or Rollei IR 400 would be the most suitable replacements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2F/2F View Post
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    I'd say that if you liked Neopan 400, then Delta 400, T-Max 400, or Rollei IR 400 would be the most suitable replacements.
    Ah but the relative price of IR400 is pretty sobering, unless you need the long wave response! I just ran through five rolls of it and took a few sans filter to see what would happen, it looks OK, but not at $9 a roll for 120.

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