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 Originally Posted by lxdude
Well, if you mean '63.....
You mean... I'm really... 5 years older... than Mom told me I was...??
Damn... I hate it when that happens...
Probably also means my dog didn't just run away either...
Damn...
Ken
"In 1850 it would have been unusual to find someone who had handled a camera or looked at a photograph, but 100 years later the reverse would have been true—the camera had become a ubiquitous device, its techniques manageable by even the clumsiest and least sophisticated person."
– Naomi Rosenblum, A World History of Photography, 1984
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Every time those two movies are on the television I feel a compulsion to watch them. I especially love the mad mad world when they are in Long Beach CA. Spent some time there in the Service of the Country courtesy of Pres. Nixon. What ever happened to the Anchor cleaners and the White hat, cap or whatever it was called uniform shop. Is there still a "Copper Penny" restaurant? Where did the Pier go with the tattoo shops and rides. And the "hey fellow want a date in the bushes over there" guy? How do you spell seedy, icky?
I remember seeing the movies in the theater too, I was 3 months old and laughed the loudest, Ha ha ha, OK I was older, not telling but around 99, keyboard is sticking, just like this thread, Kodak are you listening, I'm buying film, just ordered some more Ilford FP4+ in 5X7, where's the Plus-X? I got some 8X10 too recently in 25 sheet boxes, not the 10 sheet ones.
Everytime I find a film or paper that I like, they discontinue it. - Paul Strand - Aperture monograph on Strand
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 Originally Posted by winger
The whole 3D thing seems to me to be the latest distraction Hollywood has come up with to keep people from noticing that every movie is a remake. And not an improvement. Someone told me at the start of the HD TV craze that it was just so cool - you just HAVE to see a football game in HD. Really? Does it change who wins? I guess this is a sign that I'm edging towards being a curmudgeon. I want a good plot acted well and shot so it contributes to the story. 3D is not a part of that.
We of the Curmudgeon Club await you with open arms, Bethe! 
I agree, the fanciest-schmanciest special effects and high-tech bells and whistles cannot save a show with a boring (or no) plot, leaden acting, and slapdash directing. Please, PLEASE, just tell me a good story!
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 Originally Posted by eddym
Please, PLEASE, just tell me a good story!
Read a book!
Some very good books are being written but sales are going down due to the fact that most people love to see a dull movie remake!
BTW, sales of books about magic and the occult are going upward. Maybe something is really wrong here.
PE
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 Originally Posted by Photo Engineer
Read a book!
Some very good books are being written but sales are going down due to the fact that most people love to see a dull movie remake!
BTW, sales of books about magic and the occult are going upward. Maybe something is really wrong here.
PE
I'm ordering Stephen Hawking's new book, "The Grand Design". Can't wait to read about his "M-theory", with "11 space-time dimensions, vibrating strings, point particles, two-dimensional membranes, three-dimensional blobs, and other objects that are more difficult to picture and occupy even more dimensions of space."
Sounds pretty cool to me!
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 Originally Posted by Photo Engineer
BTW, sales of books about magic and the occult are going upward. Maybe something is really wrong here.
PE
Hey, if one of them can show me how to conjure Kodachrome in a crockpot I'm interested! But it had better show me how to turn it into a finished slide...no scratches or funny color, either!
That's me..crackpot with a crockpot. But if it works I'll be rich, at least as rich as Kodak!
Oh.
Uhhmm....
I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.
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 Originally Posted by eddym
I'm ordering Stephen Hawking's new book, "The Grand Design". Can't wait to read about his "M-theory", with "11 space-time dimensions, vibrating strings, point particles, two-dimensional membranes, three-dimensional blobs, and other objects that are more difficult to picture and occupy even more dimensions of space."
Sounds pretty cool to me! 
"His M-theory"?
That has been the subject of many articles before Hawking and Ed Witten has been giving talks on 11 space for years. You don't read enough! 
Hawking had to retract his biggest theory, and now he proposes a universe without God. Someone may take a Fatwa out on him! 
PE
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 Originally Posted by lxdude
Hey, if one of them can show me how to conjure Kodachrome in a crockpot I'm interested! But it had better show me how to turn it into a finished slide...no scratches or funny color, either!
That's me..crackpot with a crockpot. But if it works I'll be rich, at least as rich as Kodak!
Oh.
Uhhmm.... 
Yeah, Kodak rich? Nowdays that is a real oxymoron or something!
PE
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most digital photography is done by sloppy shooters... once you get behind photoshop and start manipulating your image, it takes as long as it would in the darkroom, (sometimes longer when you factor in the lousy digital image people start with). The only difference is ones a "dry" process and one isn't.
film will die, who knows when or how? soon? maybe... and it will come in a way no one predicted but by a combination of factors.
our job is to use, encourage, and teach and it will be around a bit longer that we think!
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