...but I think Kodak is no longer a photographic company and thought that the only thing that my money was used to dismantle the film production.
Kodak's CEO has been telling us this for years now. Unfortunately, many here simply refuse to listen to him.
Colin is correct. It really does no good to bash Kodak. But it also does no good to praise them, either. Their long-term decision to get out of the photography market is absolute and unwavering. They - or he - see their future elsewhere. At this stage perhaps the best we can do regarding Kodak is to just give them an honestly sincere "Thanks for the memories..." At least until we reconvene this topic again in a few months for the next scheduled round.
So did anyone else notice that Kodak Plus-X film has now been relegated to also-ran status on Kodak's Professional Black & White Films webpage?
It's now listed way down at the bottom under the heading "Other Black and White Films" along with T-MAX P3200, and now merits only two lonely sentences of product information description. It's also conspicuously missing from the "Traditional" black & white films section of Kodak's online store - as is P3200 from the "T-Max" section.
I wonder why that is?
Maybe it's Kodak's way of trying to sell more of it?
Ken
"The richness of the experience that occurs when one is exposed tangibly to a subject, material, or process is unmatchable in the abstract... Thus, when 'touch it,' 'taste it,' smell it' become the watchwords, the results are most often extraordinary. Equally extraordinary are the lengths to which people will go to avoid [that] experience."
— Tom Peters and Robert H. Waterman Jr., In Search of Excellence, 1982
hold on a second here-- I recall reading that kodak was moving the larger than 4x5 film to special order system via canham camera (http://www.canhamcameras.com/kodakfilm.html) and others, so discontinued is a bit of a misnomer no?
I spoke both to Kodak and Canham at Photokina and my impression was that Kodak was looking for ways to keep the product in the channel but without using Kodaks worldwide distribution system (which seems very complex and costly, maybe too costly to handle products with lower volumes) . My impression was it will be made available through Canham. It´s just a matter of organizing group purchases whereas we would certainly be a member of the group and if others join in (which I am sure they will) things might be even better in the end.
Just my 2c. I can´t speak for Kodak.
Mirko
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it is unfortunate but the harsh reality is that they can't make the film
and make a profit if there are so few people buying it. kodak has had
a long long history of doing this, even before those number-cameras cameras came about .. vc pan, royal pan, super xx ... there is a long list ...
if they can't make a certain amount of profit, it makes no business sense to keep producing whatever it might be.
unfortunately business is business ...
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hold on a second here-- I recall reading that kodak was moving the larger than 4x5 film to special order system via canham camera (http://www.canhamcameras.com/kodakfilm.html) and others, so discontinued is a bit of a misnomer no?
That was the films they discontinued in various sheet film sizes (such as the now-discontinued TMY-2 in 5x7/8x10).
Films in 8x10 such as Ektar 100 and Portra 400 are available through regular channels, without the need to place a special order with a minimum of $15,000.
That said, aren't there enough 8x10 shooters around to create a special order of TMY-2, which seems to be kind of a staple?
Mirko: Is there any further information about the Adox 400 film that was referenced on this thread? Will it be "more sturdy" then the current Adox Fine Art Film, and thus less prone to scratching when processed in trays?