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    Hmmmm, When did Kodak make Tri-X 400 in 4x5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass
    Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! Stop it!

    I have not gotten over that fact that now this I got into LF with two 4x5 cameras, Kodak no longer makes Tri-X 400 in 4x5!

    Kodak is moving away from slides and ceding that territory to Fuji while Fuji is moving away from C-41 and ceding that territory to Kodak!

    At times I feel like I am sinking in quicksand during an earthquake!
    And Ilford is still trying to fend off the little guys from capturing too much of the B&W market that both Kodak and Fuji are abandoning.



    Buy film. Who is around here that says it\'s never too early to panic?



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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelbsc View Post
    Who is around here that says it's never too early to panic?
    Dunno... might want to Ask Chris about that...



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    — Amanda Tomlin, Looking Glass Magazine, 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post

    So did anyone else notice that Kodak Plus-X film has now been relegated to also-ran status on Kodak's Professional Black & White Films webpage?

    It's now listed way down at the bottom under the heading "Other Black and White Films" along with T-MAX P3200, and now merits only two lonely sentences of product information description. It's also conspicuously missing from the "Traditional" black & white films section of Kodak's online store - as is P3200 from the "T-Max" section.

    I wonder why that is?

    Maybe it's Kodak's way of trying to sell more of it?

    Ken
    I can't explain this, but I first noticed it just about when I joined APUG (is it really 5 years ago?).

    I don't know how long it had been that way before I noticed it.

    It hasn't stopped me from buying and using the film.

    I don't think Kodak has ever really got away mentally from the era when the local camera store was a dealer, had access to all products at reasonable prices, and was an enthusiastic marketer of Kodak products.
    Matt

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    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

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    Good news Mirko!!!! Any idea as to when the film will be available in 8x10. Probably via Freestyle?
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    Well done Ken!...creative use of the smiley faces....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgjbowen View Post
    Well it kind of works like this:

    Yesterday President O reduced my 2011 SS taxes. Today I spent those savings, and more, on 8x10 TMY. Well, SOMEBODY has to stimulate this economy :-)
    I just "clicked to" several dealers that sell the TMax 400 on line.....within a few hours of this thread being established and amplified, the supply of the film they had on hand has apparently been sold out. Who knows if they will be able to order any more. I had checked their supply BEFORE posting the discontinuation notice, and there was film to be ordered. I have no idea how many boxes they had on hand, but talk about 'the power of the internet"....gone in just a few hours...amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetterSense View Post
    I would have figured TMY would be the last film standing. It's strange to me that they will be coating TXP and not TMY. Isn't 8x10 and 4x5 cut from the same roll?
    Maybe they aren't coating TXP...merely that the TMY master rolls were depleted before the TXP ones.

    Raw material costs for film have been going to the moon (and not just silver, all the rare earth metals needed for panchromatic sensitivity have become increasingly expensive). You really have to wonder how much longer film is going to be viable for Kodak now. It's got nothing to do with the "New Business Model" - there just isn't much demand and the costs simply must be sky-rocketing.
    Digital Photography is just "why-tech" not "high tech"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    Kodak's CEO has been telling us this for years now. Unfortunately, many here simply refuse to listen to him.

    Colin is correct. It really does no good to bash Kodak. But it also does no good to praise them, either. Their long-term decision to get out of the photography market is absolute and unwavering. They - or he - see their future elsewhere. At this stage perhaps the best we can do regarding Kodak is to just give them an honestly sincere "Thanks for the memories..." At least until we reconvene this topic again in a few months for the next scheduled round.

    So did anyone else notice that Kodak Plus-X film has now been relegated to also-ran status on Kodak's Professional Black & White Films webpage?

    It's now listed way down at the bottom under the heading "Other Black and White Films" along with T-MAX P3200, and now merits only two lonely sentences of product information description. It's also conspicuously missing from the "Traditional" black & white films section of Kodak's online store - as is P3200 from the "T-Max" section.

    I wonder why that is?

    Maybe it's Kodak's way of trying to sell more of it?

    Ken
    The PXP and P3200 are still featured in the left-hand navigation frame with the same prominence as the other films.

    If you don't know what Plus-X and TMAX 3200 films are by now - what are the odds you are going to Kodak's web site to find out?
    Digital Photography is just "why-tech" not "high tech"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    I just confirmed that with Pete at Kodak Professional Products (Ext. 19). Kodak has also just discontinued TMX in 5x7, where 320TXP will be the only film available as a stock item.

    It doesn't seem like the 10-sheet boxes of 8x10 were to blame, since 5x7 TMX continued to be packaged in 50-sheet boxes, to no apparent avail.
    I think the 10-sheet boxes were indicative of a lack of faith on Kodak's part that there would continue to be a market for the film in 8x10.

    I think they had the product volume under a microscope. If a box with 20% of the product volume isn't turning over 5 times as quickly - demand is on the decline.
    Digital Photography is just "why-tech" not "high tech"..

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