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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Where is the Impossible Project nowdays, and how does their product look? Last I saw was not very good.

    PE
    Sadly still not very good. The name is a bit of a joke in itself, this picture will self destruct in... Development temps and conditions are also a bit of a joke and the quality is quite low though it suits the 'instant art' crowd. They have marketed it as art film because it is very inconsistent. Great marketing but poor engineering.

    Polaroid was much better. Fuji Instant film still is much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Where is the Impossible Project nowdays, and how does their product look? Last I saw was not very good.
    Last I heard they sold something like 500,000 units their first year, with a projection to sell two million units this year.

    How does it look? With respect, that's not the question to ask. The question is, how does it SELL. As we all know, by original Polaroid standards it doesn't look very good at all. (See my early in-depth review of the b&w First Flush.) It is getting better - but very, very slowly.

    But by using savvy marketing (damned savvy, actually) TIP has managed to turn their lemons into lemonade. In a brutal worldwide recession they are looking for a quadrupling of their unit volume for a previously totally extinct product category.* It's like a modern-day Jurassic Park story, but for a film dinosaur.

    And as those of you who may be subscribers to their online "newsletters" also know, the TIP marketers leave absolutely no stone unturned in finding creative ways to bring in additional revenue. Refurbished cameras, old seriously outdated (or even defective) Polaroid film stocks, contests, gizmos, ego appeals. The list is endless...

    All of this is happening because they want to sell film. If they didn't, they wouldn't bother advertising. And in this digital photography world if they didn't advertise, no one would even know their film products existed, would they?

    Ken

    * And as has been repeatedly noted earlier, no other film product category was closer to digital photography's bulls-eye than instant film.
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    Exactly, Ken. Kodak's films are wonderful, of unbelievable quality, but if they go under that really won't help any of us. Impossible is selling enough of their odd product to finance improvements in their products, just as Kodak did many decades ago. Just as Ilford is doing today. I love Kodak films and will shoot them till they're gone but I fear that will be all too soon, and all too much due to Kodak's inability to adjust to a new market reality.
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    Ken;

    Lets wait and see where they are next year or the year after before we say that this is a savvy move or not. The results are not all in yet. You have to admit that even with savvy ads, neither Kodak, Fuji, nor Polaroid could have sold such a product.

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    Up in our end of the woods, there are a fair number of places where you can download one or more digital files over the internet, and then later the same day or possibly the next day go and pick up your prints. The prints are RA-4 or the Fuji equivalent.

    The other week I experimented by sending three files to a local business. Then, the next day, I picked up three 11x17 colour enlargements, printed on Kodak Supra Endura (IIRC). I paid less than $20.00 for the entire order. If I hadn't had one of the prints done on metallic paper, it would have been less than $16.00.

    The files were a bit small for that size of enlargement (6.1 megapixels) but the results are quite nice.

    By all accounts, that particular business is very busy. Unfortunately, they are entirely focused on the digital market (they don't even have a good resource to forward film to).

    They also seem to sell a lot of digital cameras, many of them high end.

    I think the reason they are apparently successful is that they emphasize having prints made.
    Matt

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    May be Kodak could invest in impossible project , create a better product and collect thee money.
    Who buys Polaroid now ? Old followers or young fellows ?
    I think new Polaroids are romantic , like Palladium tones. If you study the material well , it creates excellent nudes , naturmonts. Yes my 350 is hungry and its lithium battery still active after 15 years.
    I think I will invest in it for my sisters visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Lets wait and see where they are next year or the year after before we say that this is a savvy move or not.
    Ron,

    At rate and direction events are currently trending, where is Kodak going to be at the end of next year, or the year after?

    In the current worldwide economic environment, a case could reasonably be made that the working definition of "savvy" is "survival."

    Ken
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    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    Up in our end of the woods, there are a fair number of places where you can download one or more digital files over the internet, and then later the same day or possibly the next day go and pick up your prints. The prints are RA-4 or the Fuji equivalent.....
    Oh, sure, we have that here in the US too. Costco, Walgreens and real photo stores all have some variety of that service. You can bring in your digital card or a hard drive or CD containing photos, or you can upload your photos over the internet. The problem is, unless you're a photo enthusiast who post-processes and sharpens and color-profiles and all, the results tend to be underwhelming.

    With film, someone else did all the processing adjustments for you, making it easy to get an acceptable print. With digital, which is supposedly so convenient, the shooter is responsible for post-processing. But folks don't really know that. My friends who aren't photo people just bring in the jpeg. They are then disappointed that it doesn't look very good printed. Color film is really so much easier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    If we know that we could get rich either by buying Kodak stock or short selling Kodak stock. We only need to know whether to buy or short sell....
    Well, that's easy. The short interest in Kodak's stock is huge. According to dailyfinance.com, almost 27 percent of the company's float is sold short.

    In contrast, about 1.2 percent of Microsoft's stock is sold short. About 1.5 percent of Kraft Food Inc.'s stock. About 4.3 percent of stock in Motorola, which is struggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Hence, why are you bothering Ron with your question?
    I wasn't "bothering Ron" with a question. I was replying to his question regarding how TIP's current products "look" since at one point I had posted an extensive series of test exposures using their earlier materials.

    Then later replying to his observation to me that perhaps we should wait to see where TIP is in another year or two before judging their success.

    Why are you policing member exchanges? Are you a new moderator, Steve?

    Ken
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    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932



 

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