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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Livsey View Post
    "Hasn't silver been known and used as a bactericide for many years?"

    It has indeed been widely used for many years but as with many "historical" practices/drugs not subjected to rigorous examination, what is referred to as "evidenced based practice" has re-examined many areas assumed to work but found when investigated throughly to be lacking in evidence.
    This was published: http://www.nelm.nhs.uk/en/NeLM-Area/...ver-dressings/
    in 2010 and perhaps Harmman should have read it.

    In summary the only area of clinical use that could be justified on the evidence was in burns and even there "the evidence base is weak". Given the silver price increase must work through here as well it is unlikely, unless new evidence is presented, their use in the cash strapped NHS will increase in volume terms. The DTB is very influential as it is not funded by the industry.
    Interesting....I obviously have no specialist knowledge, so, when I made the comment, I was not sure if silver as a bactericide was an established use which could be readily exploited by Harman, or a totally new idea developed by them.

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    It goes back to Hippocrates, you may have subconsciously heard of it, not from him though :-)
    Interestingly the mechanism by which it works, and it does well in vitro, is "not yet fully understood" which means we have no real idea . It is harder to make it work in vivo, (not in usually but on). Even with their expertise in handling silver they are a minnow against the major players who already have products on the market. You would have to classify this as high risk, but perhaps being in the film business is that now anyway !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Yes you would.

    Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited
    I'm very sorry that I read your reply so quickly that I missed the job losses you mentioned. I'm sorry that people have had to lose their jobs, that's terrible. I hope you can afford to hire them back soon.
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    Blimey.

    I'm basing these figures on what I'm assuming to be the pre 1.6.11 rise prices on AG photographic and today's prices on Harman Express:

    AG (old price) - 50 x sheets 10x8 MG Art = £58.40

    Harman (new price) - 50 x Sheets 10x8 MG Art = £75.84

    That's approx 28% rise.

    Frightening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post
    Blimey.

    I'm basing these figures on what I'm assuming to be the pre 1.6.11 rise prices on AG photographic and today's prices on Harman Express:

    AG (old price) - 50 x sheets 10x8 MG Art = £58.40

    Harman (new price) - 50 x Sheets 10x8 MG Art = £75.84

    That's approx 28% rise.

    Frightening.
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    Ag, Silverprint et al often sell at a discount against Harman Express prices.

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    a 28% discount?

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    The people who got screwed are the 20% or 58 who lost their jobs at Harmon, that's not nice. I'd rather see some products cut and nothing new in the works than to see people lose their jobs.

    Curt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt View Post
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    The people who got screwed are the 20% or 58 who lost their jobs at Harmon, that's not nice. I'd rather see some products cut and nothing new in the works than to see people lose their jobs.

    Curt

    Rant pared down from an entire page to just these comments.
    I'm very sympathetic too, but if they got screwed it wasn't by Harman. The market for film and analog materials is what it is. If there was a screwing it was by the same people who screwed the rest of us in the bubble that went before the most recent economic fall.

    I doubt that cutting any materials would have saved jobs. On the face of it that just doesn't make any sense, unless some materials are losing money hand over fist, and I doubt that's the case.
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    Warning!! Handling a Hasselblad can be harmful to your financial well being!

    Nothing beats a great piece of glass!

    I leave the digital work for the urologists and proctologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Cole View Post
    I'm very sympathetic too, but if they got screwed it wasn't by Harman. The market for film and analog materials is what it is. If there was a screwing it was by the same people who screwed the rest of us in the bubble that went before the most recent economic fall.

    I doubt that cutting any materials would have saved jobs. On the face of it that just doesn't make any sense, unless some materials are losing money hand over fist, and I doubt that's the case.

    You are right about that, the bubble burst, leaving us with a mess. Harman isn't to be faulted for making the difficult decisions and staying in business. In a perfect world products would be available everywhere at a fair price and those who make them would have steady employment and earn a decent wage.

    When I need a wake up call these days I remember going into the camera store in '80 there in Santa Barbara and learning the cost of a box of sheet film had gone through the roof with no relief in sight thanks to the Hunt brothers. After Art Center and Brooks I left California early and began a new career in medicine where the employment wasn't iffy.

    For me depending on photography for a livelihood ended at that time.
    Everytime I find a film or paper that I like, they discontinue it. - Paul Strand - Aperture monograph on Strand



 

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