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    How much longer can photographic film hold on?

    Check out this article I found today on the net.

    http://apnews.myway.com//article/201...D9NHUNV00.html


    If they are right about Kodak selling, maybe Ilford could buy it. That would be great.
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    I don't have any idea how long film will hold out, but as a 23 y/o who only started shooting film 2 years ago all I can say is that I hope film will be here long after I'm gone. I have never had the chance to shoot Kodachrome and Polaroid film, but discovering film has been fun and rewarding. The intimacy of every image shot and made will be something that digital can't capture, for me personally, results matter but so does the process involved. I don't mean to belittle digital and see it as a quick kiss in the dark, I do believe that it is quite as hard as film. However, I find that making a picture out of a negative, from the moment the shot is composed and captured, to the development process, down to the final print requires something else that I can't quite put into words.

    To lose film completely will be a loss to photography I believe. Digital is the way forward, there really is no arguing with that but to do away with film completely is not beneficial to photography as a whole. As a famous quote here goes "ang hindi marunong lumingon sa kanyang pinanggalingan ay hindi makakarating sa kanyang paroroonan". Pictures are a part of humanity's culture, and photography is a triumph of human ingenuity. Losing film completely would be very regrettable in the long run.

    The only thing I can hope for is that somehow if film becomes a niche that at least it would still be readily accessible with a variety of options in film, developer, etc. in the future. Haha! I'm still 23 but I do picture myself in the darkroom with my future kids printing and developing film.

    I do apologize for my .0002 centavos worth of rant, highly uncalled for but since I caught the film wave too late I just felt it had to get out.

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    I think film will be around for a long time yet... for as long as there will be a market there will be film *fingers-cross* I think it will become more of a niche market possible much more that it is now.

    I have shot kodakchrome & love/loved the colours it produced, It's a shame it's been discontinued. I think the advantage film has over digital is that it makes the photographer think more because you have a limited amount of shots that cost money & whether you develop or you send it to a lab it costs money & this is also the big pitfall of film

    Long may film last I say

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    Its a shame digital is taking over the market. Its ideal for the average citizen, because the fact you can see the picture in an instant is handy. But you want to capture emotion, you definitely have to go analog.

    Dodgy English i know. I'm Dutch, and making an educated guess my English is still better than your Hollands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alapin View Post
    maybe Ilford could buy it. That would be great.
    Comments like these make me nuts...
    are you a venture capitalist expert?

    It's about business, and business cases. Kodak is too big to survive as it is.
    I really don't think Ilford needs it's resources. (I am not an expert either).

    Film will be around as long as there is a large enough market of people willing to buy at the prices it is offered.

    Hoarding will not help.. as the demand will drop until the hoarded stashes dry up.

    I suspect Adox and Ilford will make it for a while. Kodak's machinery is so large that I doubt it will be practical to run... although they motion picture industry will keep some of it alive.

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    I'm not a business expert.
    But some sentences i heard from a old photographer in Rome (owner of a photo-shop) made me think film will
    still be around for a while.
    Here they are: "around the globe there are companies producing 620 films. Do you think they would keep coating this stuff if they weren't profitable ? If 620 is still profitable this means that 35 and 120 will be around for a very long time" I do hope his prediction is correct.
    As far as i'm concerned i'll keep shooting film (35 and 120). I hope, should kodak give up film production, someone out there gets its business.
    Should color film die i'll only shoot BW hoping that foma,efke,bergger,adox and all these "niche" companies keep film alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alapin View Post
    If they are right about Kodak selling, maybe Ilford could buy it. That would be great.
    This article is just speculation. It could be right. It could be wrong. But it is what it is.
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    There's nothing "speculative" about the well-known stats repeated in this article. Haven't we all had enough of these threads?

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    I'm sure that film will be around for many years....but only as a specialist and niche product for those "artists" who appreciate its unique qualities and are willing to pay the price as such. I would include in this professional and amateur users, and even serious lomographers, who are seeking to produce interesting and unusual results.

    However, IMHO, the days of its use by family and snapshot users are long gone, and I see a further decline in the use by those hobbyists who become satisfied with the results from digital and no longer feel that the increasing costs of analog products are justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faustotesta View Post
    I'm not a business expert.
    But some sentences i heard from a old photographer in Rome (owner of a photo-shop) made me think film will
    still be around for a while.
    Here they are: "around the globe there are companies producing 620 films. Do you think they would keep coating this stuff if they weren't profitable ? If 620 is still profitable this means that 35 and 120 will be around for a very long time" I do hope his prediction is correct.
    As far as i'm concerned i'll keep shooting film (35 and 120). I hope, should kodak give up film production, someone out there gets its business.
    Should color film die i'll only shoot BW hoping that foma,efke,bergger,adox and all these "niche" companies keep film alive.
    I agree entirely.

    However, just picking up on niche products and unusual sizes...it's great that these are still made, hopefully profitably, but those like 620 are unlikely to be used again on any scale for everyday photography and ongoing production must be very fragile. I've just paid a ridiculous price for a couple of 127 films just for the fun of trying out my first schoolboy camera again, but, even if it works, I'm obviously not going to revert to buying that size regularly.

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