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    Quote Originally Posted by jp80874 View Post
    Peter and I have been shooting quite often down in the flats for about a year. Dale, Shawn and Peter have posted pictures of some of their favorite places. You can see we have some wonderful locations to shoot. Thanks to Peter’s generously scanning a few of my prints I can now start to add some of mine. I hope others will post images from earlier NE OH Gatherings. Bethe, how about some from the Ohio Farm Museum?

    One of the ships that comes to Cleveland quite often is the Alpena. She was built in 1943 and as I understand it, brings liquid cement from MI to a concrete plant here in the flats. Honestly I am not sure whether cement is a component of concrete or the other way around. With all the highway bridge building going on, the Flats must be a high volume cement customer.

    I discovered the Alpena on the IOS app described a few posts back. Saturday Peter saw my print from months ago of the Alpena unloading. He liked the picture. Sunday the Alpena was back in town so Peter could compose his own image. We have found that there are several 600+ foot Lake Freighters that regularly bring lime stone, taconite, cement and other bulk freight to Cleveland. Rarely a weekend goes by that some vessels are not visiting the flats. That ought to put a curse on the 17-19th.

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    Excellent work, John!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp80874 View Post
    Peter and I have been shooting quite often down in the flats for about a year. Dale, Shawn and Peter have posted pictures of some of their favorite places. You can see we have some wonderful locations to shoot. Thanks to Peter’s generously scanning a few of my prints I can now start to add some of mine. I hope others will post images from earlier NE OH Gatherings. Bethe, how about some from the Ohio Farm Museum?

    One of the ships that comes to Cleveland quite often is the Alpena. She was built in 1943 and as I understand it, brings liquid cement from MI to a concrete plant here in the flats. Honestly I am not sure whether cement is a component of concrete or the other way around. With all the highway bridge building going on, the Flats must be a high volume cement customer.

    I discovered the Alpena on the IOS app described a few posts back. Saturday Peter saw my print from months ago of the Alpena unloading. He liked the picture. Sunday the Alpena was back in town so Peter could compose his own image. We have found that there are several 600+ foot Lake Freighters that regularly bring lime stone, taconite, cement and other bulk freight to Cleveland. Rarely a weekend goes by that some vessels are not visiting the flats. That ought to put a curse on the 17-19th.

    Come to the event and make you own pictures.

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    A beautiful portrait of a lovely old laker, John. One of the few things I miss about living in Holland is no longer getting to watch the freighters in the harbor there. My favorite was always the Joseph H. Frantz, one of the classic forward pilot house Great Lakes Freighters, as is the Alpena. The Frantz used to haul coal into Holland Harbor often. I saw her a few years ago going through the Soo Locks under a foreign flag, then later on over in Port Colborne, Ontario as she was being scrapped. Such an ignominious end for a lovely lady of the lakes.


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    Thank you both. I can’t think of two friends whose work I respect more. That is a very nice compliment.

    When I saw on the app that the Alpena had arrived I rushed over there to set up. I use the term “rushed” loosely. My average first shot takes about an hour. There were four seniors standing around with old 35mm cameras in worn leather cases snapping quick ones. One came over to tell me all about the Alpena. “She is the oldest freighter on the Great Lakes, built 100 years ago, etc.” I may have looked strangely, because the app gives her year built as 1943. I am older than that. This is pretty old for a Laker, because their life is pretty rough with as little maintenance as possible, but 100 years she is not. Later Google said that there was an side wheeler freighter called Alpena built 100 years ago, but either they had made a nice conversion or this was a newer version. You know those older photographers tend to boast and can be pretty unreliable.

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    The gentleman had the Alpena mixed up with another cement carrier, the St. Mary's Challenger, which actually is 106 years old and still in service. But that ship stays over on Lake Michigan and very very rarely travels to the other lakes. I love shooting the lake freighters but the Alpena is one that has always eluded me.

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    Also Hello, my name is Rob, I shoot a number of different things but at the moment I am heaviest into instant films, Fuji packfilm in a Polaroid 110B conversion camera. Plus a lot of medium format in a number of different things, folding cameras, 6x6 SLR, rangefinder. I'm kinda all over the place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robburrito View Post
    The gentleman had the Alpena mixed up with another cement carrier, the St. Mary's Challenger, which actually is 106 years old and still in service. But that ship stays over on Lake Michigan and very very rarely travels to the other lakes. I love shooting the lake freighters but the Alpena is one that has always eluded me.
    Robburrito will you be joining us?

    We have seen the Alpina a few times, but I don't have access to her schedule. It is regular because that whole fascility to the left of the ship in the picture is for unloading her. Virtually every weekend since we discovered this app there have been 600 foot freighters in Cleveland, some going way up the crooked river. How they get around these bends is really amazing, some times involving a tug, but most go with just thrusters. Nicely they have to go slow enough for 1 or 2 second exposures around the bends. To me what is interesting is how far out of whack they throw the scale of things; big ship, small tug, tight corners, low bridges, the communication between the ships and the lift bridges. 100 car trains stop to let the ships pass under a bridge. It has become a major part of this year's 7x17 photo series for me.

    John

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    As I write there are two ships in Cleveland:
    Calumet, 192 meters
    Lee A Tregurtha, 237 meters

    and the Sam Laud, 194 meters, passing Detroit on her way to Cleveland in the morning
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    John: If you have not already, you might try the Boatnerd website. The amateur spotters who send in reports seem to keep a pretty keen eye on where ships are in the Lakes.


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    The site I use for tracking boats is this one: http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/
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    Very nice print John! Perfect use of the frame.

    Look forward to seeing it and the rest of the crew in May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Henderson View Post
    John: If you have not already, you might try the Boatnerd website. The amateur spotters who send in reports seem to keep a pretty keen eye on where ships are in the Lakes.
    It is funny. About last October, Peter and I were shooting every Sunday because I had been chased off work sites on weekdays and sometimes they work over time on Saturdays. Dolly and I had just gotten an IPad. I found we were Googling much more with that than we ever had with PCs.

    I searched on “what ships are in the port of Cleveland?” Boatnerd came up. That led to http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/. Thanks Axle.

    That led to AIS’ apps for IOS, IPhone and IPad. That is how I got there.

    I usually check the night before a shoot, then the morning before I leave for the Flats and during the day of a shoot to see if any in port ship is moving to a place where I have access and light at that time of day. Some of the ships go to one place, others delivering limestone seem to anchor off whisky island, then unload south of whisky island. I can’t get there, then go way up river where we can go. Often if the timing is right we can catch the ship being pulled around bends in the river, going under bridges. It is all very interesting if you are into this sort of thing. Rocks and roots it is not.
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