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    Where are you based? Perhaps there is someone around your area who can show you some of the ropes?

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    hi mazen

    rather than investing thousands of dollars,
    you might consider getting a smaller format camera
    and just cropping your view. until you decide it is really
    what you want to do, and then get a dedicated system like ian suggests.
    there are lots of scanners ( refurbished epsons are great ) that allow you to
    scan film ... and seeing how there are fewer and fewer color labs that do optical wet darkroom work
    that might a way to go. it seems you already know your way around the software .. it is a matter of
    the hardware ( some of the other sites might be able to suggest scanners for you. depending on your format, some are more useful than others ) ...

    have fun !
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    Thank You all,
    First of all I am from Columbia-Missouri,
    I really appreciate your replies.
    based on what you said, I think the right thing is to buy a reasonable camera and learn the basics and then move to other panoramic cameras.
    What would be a recommended camera to buy that is a med. format camera and takes 6X17 film backs, what lenses too?. I am starting from scratch, so What do I need along the camera to start shooting with it?
    some people mention [FONT=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Gaoersi 617 and mayama 23, I looked them up on H&B and Adorma but did not see them, Where Can I find them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Brown View Post
    These really are questions for our sister site: DPUG. We do not normally discuss digital technical matters here. However, yes, you can scan color film. If you're going to do that and print digitally, why not just shoot digital in the first place?
    Panoramic with digital is not as straightforward as with panoramic film cameras. Stitching is a hassle to do and to set up and take shots for and doesn't work well with any scene that is not static.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    Panoramic with digital is not as straightforward as with panoramic film cameras. Stitching is a hassle to do and to set up and take shots for and doesn't work well with any scene that is not static.
    A few photographers who specialised in Panoramas using 6x17 went completely digital but have returned to using film again. There's inherrent problems with perspective in stitched images and more importantly it's useless if there's any movement. Try stitching a panoramic seascpe with waves rollong in

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    Cropping 6x9 or making a pinhole panoramic would be the cheapest options.

    6x17 LF and Xpan are very elegant but expensive options.

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    An inexpensive 4 X 5 camera with, an expensive Dayi 6 X 17 Roll Film Adapter
    might be an affordable solution. And it's adjustable to 6 X 14, and 6 X 12 also.
    When I get older, and my testicles develop, I might even consider buying that ...

    Dayi 6 X 17 Roll Film Adapter:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Dayi-617...#ht_4115wt_932

    Has anyone ever purchased a Dayi Roll Film Adapter ?
    I would love to get a review on the quality, and construction of their devices.


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    I have a couple of pretty inexpensive suggestions:

    1) Use a cut-down extra darkslide on a medium or large format camera to get a negative about the size of an X-pan negative. I did this on my RB67 to get an image roughly 26x70mm. I am planning to do it with my 4x5" monorail as well, getting about 2x5. You get two images per frame this way.

    Here's a sample of that work from the RB67:

    Attachment 50569

    2) Some medium format cameras have 35mm panoramic backs that are far cheaper than an X-pan, and you also get a regular medium format camera in the bargain. I know the Bronica medium format SLRs have this option.

    And another thing - I didn't see a tripod mentioned in your list (I have been known to miss things...). Anyway you'll want a sturdy tripod, especially if you go with one of the larger cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    A few photographers who specialised in Panoramas using 6x17 went completely digital but have returned to using film again. There's inherrent problems with perspective in stitched images and more importantly it's useless if there's any movement. Try stitching a panoramic seascpe with waves rollong in

    Ian
    Exactly!
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.A.Longmore View Post
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    An inexpensive 4 X 5 camera with, an expensive Dayi 6 X 17 Roll Film Adapter
    might be an affordable solution. And it's adjustable to 6 X 14, and 6 X 12 also.
    When I get older, and my testicles develop, I might even consider buying that ...

    Dayi 6 X 17 Roll Film Adapter:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Dayi-617...#ht_4115wt_932

    Has anyone ever purchased a Dayi Roll Film Adapter ?
    I would love to get a review on the quality, and construction of their devices.


    Ron
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    I also see that for a little over a thousand you can get a complete camera (minus lens). I have no idea what the quality is like, but it is a bargain if the quality is decent

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