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    6x17 roll film back or dedicated 6x17 body?

    Hey,

    If i want t go with 617 format i have many options, but the 2 options i was thinking about are:

    1) Buying a 6x17 roll film back to use it on my 4x5LF body

    2) Buy a 6x17 body

    So between the two, which one do you prefer to go with?

    Will 6x17 back cover that 4x5 format enough?

    Can i use my analog LF lenses [modern ones] if i buy one of those 6x17 cameras body only with its viewfinder and cone to accept that lens?

    I am not planning to go with 5x7 or larger then buying different backs yet as another option, so i limit myself on the 2 options above, any recommendations or opinions/suggestions are welcome.

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    If money is no consideration, I'd go with the 617 camera. More convenient, and less weight.

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    5 inches is only about 12cm, how will a 4x5 lens cover a 6x17 frame? Am I missing something?

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    A dedicated 6x17 would be more convenient (and more expensive). A 6x17 back for your 4x5 will be a lot cheaper and you will have more lens options.
    I bought a 6x17 back and it works even with a 400mm lens (tele lenses only over about 200mm). Working with it is cumbersome and I have stopped using it (I think mine is for sale or trade if you are interested). Instead I use my 8x10 and crop the negatives when I want large panoramic images.
    If money is no option I would recommend a dedicated 6x17
    If weight and handling is no problem and you want all the options that you have with your 4x5 camera then a back could be useful

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegman View Post
    5 inches is only about 12cm, how will a 4x5 lens cover a 6x17 frame? Am I missing something?
    A 6x17 back will be moved back from the GG so as long as the lens is not to far away you will be able to get a width of 17cm. If you move the lens too far away the 5" width will restrict the image. When using longer focal lengths you will have to use tele designs and not conventional lenses.

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    I see, thank you very much!

    Money is an issue, but i found some expensive dedicated 617 bodies that i can afford, so i think from your posts it is better i go that route than getting a roll back for my 4x5LF.

    Now my other question didn't get answer yet, can i use my current LF lenses with that dedicated 617 body if i bought it?

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    Depends on the body. Some of them, like Linhof and Fuji, have proprietary lens mounts and helicals with calibrated scales for focusing, and some of them use only groundglass focusing, so you can mount any lens that covers the format.

    Many 4x5" lenses have enough image circle to cover 617.

    I had one of the 617 backs for a while, and it was interesting to use, but ultimately, I decided other formats were more convenient. It's similar to 4x10", which I can shoot using a half-darkslide mask in my 8x10" camera, and I also have a medium format Noblex, which sometimes works better aesthetically, and can be enlarged with a 4x5" enlarger. When I want the non-swing-lens perspective, I always have the options of 2x5" or 4x10", without the focal length restrictions of a 617 extension back on 4x5", so the dedicated 617 back didn't seem like enough of an advantage to keep it, and 120 Kodachrome being long gone, it's not as if there is a rollfilm emulsion that I would want that I can't get in sheet film.
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    With a dedicated 6x17 you will have to use the right lenses. You cannot use any lens but only those specified by the maker. You will also need the right extension for that lens.
    You might be able to use some of your current lenses but more likely not.

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    Ok, good, i will read more about the compatible lenses for one of those dedicated 6x17, and i will check all the adapters or helicals or whatever it needs to attach my LF lenses on the body.

    I wish if i have larger format than 4x5 then i may accept going with roll film back for a while, but i think it may make me not liking it much, so better i go with dedicated one.

    Thank you very much!

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    Any lens that covers the format and is physically compatible can be used on these dedicated 617 cameras, for instance:

    http://www.fotoman.cc/showPro.asp?id=33

    http://www.badgergraphic.com/store/c..._detail&p=2878

    http://www.ebonycamera.com/cam/main.617S.html
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