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The 6x17 back sticks out further i think by a couple of inches and it has a build in ground glass since focusing will be further away from the lens than with the 6x12 back.
jan
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The groundglass isn't built into the back. There is a separate groundglass viewer used for focusing, and then it is replaced with the back for making the photograph.
The 6x17 backs for 4x5" cameras are all essentially expansion backs, like a 5x7" back for a 4x5" camera (Wista makes one of these).
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6x17 -- roll back or whole new camera?
Found this link recently:
http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/product...2154&PT_ID=437
and was pretty fascinated. I have a Shen Hao 4x5, and already use and like my 6x12 Horseman back.
Has anyone used this back? Or have any information about whether it's worth the purchase? If it's wonky, then I may save my shekels for the 6x17 or 7x17 Shen Hao offers. (although if I spend any more on cameras, I may just find myself fighting the cats for food)
many thanks for wisdom imparted....
Colin
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Colin, you might consider that for a fairly similar price you can get a gaoersi or fotoman 6x17...
I am currently debating between that option and a 6x17 rollfilm back for a 5x7 or 4x5 and thinking that a standalone camera will be used much more. Haven't yet heard/read anything negative about the gaoersis or fotomans... apparently their mechanisms are simple and robust.
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Try a search on "DaYi" and you should turn up one or two threads on the DaYi 6x17 back, which is similar to the ShenHao, and a few others. I have the DaYi 6x17 back, and I find it useful.
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I'd get a true 6x17 camera instead of the back. If you're going out specifically for panoramas, less to carry and roll film is VERY convenient for travel. I'd been toying with getting a DaYi as they come with a ground glass attachment which I would find extremely useful for critical framing.
Downside to these cameras is you may need to get new lenses or get used to swapping them out with your Shen.
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I use the Shen 617 back on an Ebony 45s which allows me to do vertical as well as landscape aspect. It works very well and I can have a few sheets of 4x5 with me too...Evan Clarke
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I have a Da Yi that I picked up for about $400 (new) on Fleabay.
Very basic, robust, but a bit awkward to use.
What I do like is the fact that I retain all the movements of the view camera. I would not consider a panoramic camera with at least some rise/fall capability - unless you are happy with the horizons being smack in the middle, or curved.
I also upgraded a couple of lenses - I noticed that sharpness fell off at the ends of the image even stopped down.
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There is an article on the LF Forum on the Art Panorama 6x17 roll film back made by Shen Hao.
BTW, in the Robert White link, the image shows a "SH617 Panorama" while the one on Badger Graphic's website shows a "SH617 Art Panorama" - anyone know if they are the same thing? Wondering why the labels are different....
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A couple of years ago I was in a similar position, I decided to buy a Gaoersi 6x17 and haven't regretted the decision, they are well made robust cameras and significantly cheaper than the Fotoman as you buy direct from the manufacturer.
It's very much easier to use a dedicated 6x17 camera, I use mine hand-held 90% of the time and so far it has been to 3 continents in the time I've owned it.
Ian
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