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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Workman
    I have a few negs that I like and a bunch more that showed me that my brain couldn't get around the wide view- I ran out of "composition" at the ends of the frame. ( so who cares about fall-off)

    :-) :-) Yeah I got you point there but when you find that “composition” and your brain is open for wider things than it’s nice to know that there is no fall out! :-)
    Anyway, I believe that in most cases that the fall out never gonna see the daylight it’s just simply going to be left in the dark. :-) And I can state that some part of the image too and it doesn’t have anything to do with the fall out! :-) :-) It’s just a wide is too wide sometimes! :-)

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    The lense I had been thinking of for the 6x24 is the Schneider - Super Symmar XL 110/f5.6 with its 288mm image circle slightly beter than the 90/f5.6 Super Angulon XL and I'm guessing would not have so great a fall off and it has a reasonable 110deg of coverage but at the cost of being a slightly heavier lense.
    I was not serious about the 500mm XXL unless there is a 6x72 out there!
    [FONT=Palatino Linotype]Rob J-T[/FONT]

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    Well, if you look at some of Art Sinsabaugh's panoramas, they are often narrow strips--3-4 inches maybe--cropped from 12x20" negs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trebor569
    The lense I had been thinking of for the 6x24 is the Schneider - Super Symmar XL 110/f5.6 with its 288mm image circle slightly beter than the 90/f5.6 Super Angulon XL and I'm guessing would not have so great a fall off and it has a reasonable 110deg of coverage but at the cost of being a slightly heavier lense.
    I was not serious about the 500mm XXL unless there is a 6x72 out there!
    I know I undrestand it, that's why I said it's defenitelly not feet the Fotoman! And then I put a little :-) efter, this is a smily! And that the whole thing was meant with a little Irony!

    If I told you that the Schneider 210 is to big earlier than you probobly understood that I didn't meant seriously as the XXL is even bigger! But David had a little problem with it! :-)

    It would be like putting my 1000 mm Apo Ronar to my Nikon F2! Now, how that would be? :-)


    Yes the 110 is a better choice but to what size 6x17? Than it's a brilliant choice! Expencive stuff! Look on Ebay you might fine one used! Save money for film! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb
    Well, if you look at some of Art Sinsabaugh's panoramas, they are often narrow strips--3-4 inches maybe--cropped from 12x20" negs.
    Yes David, it's exacly what we are talking about! If somebody a brilliant mind with a lot's of ideas could compose so that he can show the whole negative than that guy should get a book pulished because his is a genious!

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    Hello Rob... I hope I'm not too late with my reply. I haven't been able to get into the forum for a couple of weeks... maybe a China thing.

    While the 90XL does cover the format and we do support it, when asked it is not a lens we normally reccomend. Of course light fall of is problematic (though cureable), but more importantly the 90mm focal length is EXTREMELY wide on 624. Finding subject matter that holds up well is not all that easy... those georgeous mountains in the background can become quite diminutive and lose their drama quite easily. BTW - my comments apply equally to the 617/72XL combination. From my own experience the best WIDE lens for the 624 format is the 110XL. This is echoed by others as well. Take a look at Micheal Hubry's work, which appears in our Users Gallery (http://www.fotomancamera.com/gallery.asp)... he uses the 110XL exclusively, producing some truly beautiful images. For B&W with the 624/110XL combo you could likely get away without a CF, but for color transparency materials I would reccomend using one (fortunately it has a 67mm filter thread). This is likely the case for all lenses used on 624 of 150mm or less (excluding perhaps the Schneider 150XL). I've used the 90XL, 110XL, 120 Super Angulon, Nikon 120 SW and Fuji 125 SW... in all cases using a center filter was required to even out exposure in sky areas, something there is usually a LOT of on 6x24. Once again... this is for color transparency films. I have yet to work with B&W on 624, so I can not give you first hand advise in this regard.

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    Thanks Fotoman.
    I had reservations about the 90XL, excellent lense though it is, because its useful circle of coverage is too close, (so I felt), to the size of the film.
    Hence today I ordered the 6x24 with the 110XL.
    Its a pity that the spacer/cone/focus mount etc are not sold separately from the camera body, because I had thought of keeping the 150XL permanently fixed to this and swap lenses without having to recalibrate every time.
    Any news of the bellows attachments yet?
    [FONT=Palatino Linotype]Rob J-T[/FONT]

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    Hi Rob,

    your order was shipped today BTW. In fact Cone Assemblies can be purchased seperately, and once calibrated it's simply a matter of loosening 4 knurled head thumb screws (by hand) to change from one lens to another... no need to re-calibrate. The Bellows Adapter is in progress, but honestly it's a ways off. On the other hand, our Shift Adapter will be ready around the 1st of December.

    Happy shooting, and please post some of your "keepers" on our web gallery.

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    Hi Fotoman
    I didn't know about the shift adapter this sounds like I am embarking on quite an interesting photographic journey. And Robert White's site does not mention the cone assemblies being available seperately.
    Yep be glad to post some examples on your site.
    [FONT=Palatino Linotype]Rob J-T[/FONT]

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    It is surprising how many people have their mind limited to wide angle views with the Fotoman 6x24. I've been using my 6x24 camera with 300mm Nikon for years and I'm still not short of scenes in nature to photograph.Com'om, get loose, free yourself and start to see beyond the 110 or 90mm lenses!

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