i have no access to ULF at the moment, but yes, i will not be jumping into it without at least basic experience.
Originally Posted by TheFlyingCamera
one thing is the investment into the ULF (financial and labour), and the other, even more important is the art-project - being with the "right tools" that inspire and will make the endeavor possible :-)
I use an 11x14 for portraits. When everything works, it's fantastic. I was using hotlights for a while, but my models have encouraged a push towards strobe and natural light.
The other issue is cost. I have an 8x10 back and that helps, but each sheet of 11x14 HP5+ is $6.40 at BH (compared to $3.50 per sheet for 8x10).
martinez, yes, saw the price differences for film :-)
among the movie lights, dedolight is very efficient and gives amazing quality of illumination too. naturally, it is spot, but because of the design, it is easier to diffuse than most other spots, with efficiency and lots of room for mastery with panels and various fabrics/filters.
well, I'll tell ya---if you try to be a dillatante and only dip in your toes without out an adequate investment, then the tools you have will be inadequate and it will not be a good experience.
however if you bite the bullet and buy the proper equipment up front--that INCLUDES a sufficient number of film holders--that will be your #1 thing to get in my opinion--11x14 portraits you will need to have a lot of these--don't expect every shot to go as planned or at all.
don't bother trying to build anything till you use some equipment for a while and you KNOW what you're doing. Things on a 4x5 or 8x10 are different on 11x14...the priorities change for what you want in a camera--I find I'm better off with more than one camera--each one suited to a specific task rather than buying an "all in one" camera---the all in one's try to add too much functionaliy and sacrifice rigidity and weight...however, that is all there is on the market---so buy one of them and you'll see what each type of shooting requires and allow sufficient knowledge to build your own cameras. THEN you can sell the original camera, probably for what you paid for it and you'll still keep your film holders...or you can sell the lot for what you paid likely...it's not like you'll be out any money on the deal---and TIME--it is more valuable than money--so just jump in or you'll be wondering "what if" you're whole life.
obsoletely agree, the time, the effort, the vision, the emotions and the expectations going into doing the art-projects will not like dilettante state of mind.. so, no short-cuts and excessive savings or building my own. Lotus has wonderful ulf cameras, film-holders, schnieder xxl lens to offer, and from initial contact, the designer himself seems a great man to deal with.
basically, im sure i can manage with ulf camera, and the contact platinums will look great, and i will do my best to make it work perfectly... but the ulf camera (and contact print) is not a goal on its own and not an indispensable part of the vision and plans i have for future works. i guess some initial experience will be an intuitive guide, straightening out the ambivalence of fascination and hesitation about ulf.
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btw, i dont know how about 11x14 with portraits, but the essential difference is between "roll film" and "sheet film" attitudes.
either way, several film holders are needed, thats for sure. portrait is a delicate craft.
hi vic vic
i have a 11x14 camera that i use for studio type portraits.
its a century 8a, but i don't shoot film with it .. i use paper negatives.
i made a 11x14 back and paper holders .. and eventually i found an 7x11 back with film holders ..
using a big camera is nothing like using a smaller one. everything is a bit more deliberate .. and less
paper takes the hassle out of the cost of film, so it frees me up to have a bit more fun and do things i
normally wouldn't commit a 7$ sheet of film to .. it also makes it easier to process the film by inspection ...
i don't stop down my lens, but use a big old wollensak triple convertible wide open ..
i have 2 monoblock lights that i use in soft b oxes its fun, and inexpensive ..
good luck !
do u have any samples of wide open 11x14 for post, please, to give some impression how it look like.
the paper thing is cool too, ilford positive paper ? i still havent tried that one
hey vic vic
i haven't used the direct positive paper yet
but i am looking forward to someday using it ..
( i don't think is is available bigger than 8x10 in fb but then again 8x10 is a nice size )
there are some paper portraits in my "album" on my profile page
have fun !
ps. old expired paper works great since the fog helps tame the contrast
Nicholas Nixon is a master doing portraits with 11x14 camera. watch his work , i like his selfportraits.