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    8x10 lenses

    Hello, newbie to the ULF and next month I will be picking up a Szabad 8x10 from a friend who hasn't used it in years. I did some research on the camera and not much available out there since these are pretty rare in the US. But the story of the camera and it's maker are fascinating. Anyone here has any idea what lens (8x10 coverage) and most importantly lens board would work with this baby? I have a few projects I'd like to use this camera for: in the field portraits and maybe some alt process landscape work so hopefully that's enough info to guide your valuable advice.

    Thanks in advance for any tips and I look forward to learning more on this forum!

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    8x10 isn't really ULF.
    For landscapes, any modern Plasmat type lens from 240mm to 360/420mm would be a fair start. For portraits, the 360/420 will be better. There are many lenses out there, you will find it worth your while to learn a bit about them. You may want a classic lens to complement the alt. processes.

    The best online rescource I know of for LF info and advice is http://www.largeformatphotography.info (homepage, lots of good basic introductory info here) and http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/index.php (question & answer fora).

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    If it does not have a lens board, measure the size of the opening to see which size lensboard you need. You can check the SK grimes site to see if those dimensions match some other maker's boards. Otherwise you can make your own out of model aircraft plywood or aluminum. Don't cut the hole in the middle until you get your lens. Look for a 240 to 360mm lens in a Copal #3 size shutter. I don't know of many lenses in #3 shutters that DON"T cover 8x10.

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    A thread at LFPF you may find helpful. http://www.largeformatphotography.in...bad-8x10-users

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    Thanks for the replies so far. I apologize if I posted this in the wrong forum, the label said "anything larger then 8x10" which I thought would include 8x10. In either case I do appreciate the tips on focal length of the lens and shutter size. I'll measure the opening once I get my hands on it. Also, I did read all of the LF forum posts about the Szabad cameras, like I said the google search only came up with a few links and that was one of them. And not much in there about lens board size.

    Again, thanks for the help
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    hi aleks

    there are 2 lensboards for your camera
    one is a large rectangular piece that also does rise and fall in addition
    to the geared rise / fall on your camera ... the actual board the lens mounts onto
    is 5" square, like the kodak boards.
    its good to see brendt's camera made it to you !
    i have had my szabad 8x10 for a handful of years
    while there were oodles of the 18x24 metric versions made, very few of the english/8s10s made it
    out of europe ...

    its good to know another person with one ( that makes 3 of the 5 accounted for )

    have fun, its a great camera !

    oh about lens size

    i use a lever-stop wide angle rapid rectalianer and a wollensak 1a triple on mine, if you can find
    a symmar convertible ( 210/370 ) the 370 will cover, and probably the 265 as well ( 150 / 265 )
    converted the symmars have a huge image circle. rumor has it that there are some wide angle versions
    of the computar symmetrigons ( 150 ) that will cover the format as well while the person i bought mine from
    said it covered no problem i haven't mounted it on anything bigger than a 5x7 ...
    one of reinhold's wollaston's would work nicely on your camera too

    john

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    hi aleks

    there are 2 lensboards for your camera
    one is a large rectangular piece that also does rise and fall in addition
    to the geared rise / fall on your camera ... the actual board the lens mounts onto
    is 5" square, like the kodak boards.
    its good to see brendt's camera made it to you !
    i have had my szabad 8x10 for a handful of years
    while there were oodles of the 18x24 metric versions made, very few of the english/8s10s made it
    out of europe ...

    its good to know another person with one ( that makes 3 of the 5 accounted for )

    have fun, its a great camera !

    oh about lens size

    i use a lever-stop wide angle rapid rectalianer and a wollensak 1a triple on mine, if you can find
    a symmar convertible ( 210/370 ) the 370 will cover, and probably the 265 as well ( 150 / 265 )
    converted the symmars have a huge image circle. rumor has it that there are some wide angle versions
    of the computar symmetrigons ( 150 ) that will cover the format as well while the person i bought mine from
    said it covered no problem i haven't mounted it on anything bigger than a 5x7 ...
    one of reinhold's wollaston's would work nicely on your camera too

    john
    Ha! I guess it's a very small world of LF shooters out there Yes, I am the person who's inheriting that camera and can't wait to work with it. So in the meantime I was hoping to pick up a lens so I don't just stare at the camera when it gets here. So I really appreciate the advice. And it's good to connect with you here so I know who to bug with questions
    Aleksandra Miesak

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    Have a look here. You'll see a column with the format sizes included.

    It will give you a good starting point. As for where to buy them, eBay and LFPF are good places, as is Midwest Photo Exchange.

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    Aleks,

    Another consideration is process lenses (Apo Artar's, Apo-Nikkor's, Apo-Ronar's, G-Claron's) from the reproduction industry. These were extremely expensive and well corrected lenses that cost a bundle when new, but with the printing world going digital, they are surplus and going for a small fraction of their original cost.

    The downside is that they do tend to be slow (max aperature f9 is common) and they are typically barrel mounted (without a shutter). These problems are not insurmountable and many use them, myself included.

    More to consider,

    Len

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