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    More 12X20 heartaches / headaches!

    So after I discovered all my Efke film was screwed I broke the seal on some NEW Kodak TMY in the triple box with 2008 exp. I unloaded 4 sheets of Efke and loaded up the Kodak excited with the knowledge that these might be my first problem free 12X20 exposures.

    On the way home from the Hall's in Lehi I stopped in Deseret Utah and photographed a gorgeous victorian school house that hasn't been blown up yet. It was the ideal 1220 shot filling the frame just perfectly. Max rise to get the spire peak in. In the can, right? Then I drove 100 extra miles to photograph the old Lund Mercantile and Hotel in Modena Utah. Another perfect frame for 12X20! Satisfied that I had used the format to near perfect proportionment I developed both sheets last evening, my first chance since last weekend.

    The film is fogged and worthless. Yes, I'm angry. Man it would be nice to just put film in the camera and go make pictures without all these headaches!! Will I ever get back to either location to get those perfect shots back? Probably not in this lifetime. Apparently we can't get film delivered in Tonopah Nevada that hasn't been nuked beyond recognition.
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    How are these getting fogged? Was this box a POS too. 12x20 sheets ain't cheap, and I'ld be looking for heads if a box of new film was fogged.
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    That's the excellent question Mark. Sealed fresh film, the only thing my pea brain can think of is they are getting nuked in transit somehow. Or did Kodak fire everyone that knew how to work in the dark? I'm looking at throwing $150 bucks of film in the trash.
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    Hi Jim,

    Sorry to hear about the problems. Just wondering though, are you sure that you aren't getting light leaks somewhere in the camera or the film holders? Maybe the film is more fogged than those possible causes.

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    The question is, did the 8x10's come out ok? I really do not want to freeze my a$$ of again to sit still for something I truely hate to do.

    BTW you will get back to those spots. As li'l Abner's mom used to say, "I have spoken!" Besides they are too close to me, and that cache of cameras and old lenses,(trying to entice you here) that are located in Iron County Utah. Same county as Modena if I remember corectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie View Post
    The question is, did the 8x10's come out ok? I really do not want to freeze my a$$ of again to sit still for something I truely hate to do.

    BTW you will get back to those spots. As li'l Abner's mom used to say, "I have spoken!" Besides they are too close to me, and that cache of cameras and old lenses,(trying to entice you here) that are located in Iron County Utah. Same county as Modena if I remember corectly.
    What cache of cameras/lenses? Can I come too?

    Jim--sorry to hear about your heartache. I hope Kodak makes good on their film. I bet John is better about this than Kodak, but there is still hope.

    Maybe with all the frustrations, it is time to take out the Cirkut?

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    Jim,

    Maybe develope an unexposed sheet in the Darkroom. (?):o
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    If the sheets are fogged, and you just opened the package get in touch with Kodak, after developing, as dave says, an unexposed sheet.

    DOn't throw away 150.00 dollars in film until you know why. If it is the holder, or the camera you can fix it, if it is the film you can get a replacement.
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    There are several ways for film to become fogged, and x-rays in transport is only one of them. Not even the most efficient one...

    Developing an unexposed sheet would tell you if the problem is in cameras/holders/whatever between loading holders and unloading holders again. Might be useful to know for getting a refund.
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    Getting the house winterized today and quick as I'm done with that I plan to soup 2 more sheets. 1 from each new package of film. But the camera / holders were in use just days previous and I didn't experience any troubles other that the corner leak from the leaky Efke packaging. Pretty doubtful the camera is at fault.
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