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    Progression to ULF ... yours ?

    Hello all,

    Idle times ...thought so why not start a thread that's not just the got a question, need an answer variety and ask:

    So what/how did you work up to ULF sizes ? and ok, yeh why not a little why thrown in there also ...

    Mine is mostly bragging rights, but a proper reason of sorts is I like 1:1 magnification (feels like I've typed that a bit lately) and 11x14" is the minimum size that your traditional passport style composition will fit. Not interested in pano formats yet and dont need infinity focus so its not such an issue investing in the glassware (although I did just buy a Dallmeyer 4A).

    As for me after buying the holders 11x14" was a simple enough conversion for my Sinar - but I'm thinking bigger and am now building a camera that will do both film and plate up to 16x20... thats the plan anyway - ha ha
    Cleared the bowel problem, working on the consonants...

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    Okay, I will jump in.

    Well, it all started with a strange desire to buy 4x5 camera about six years.
    Then about five years ago, I decided that 4x5 wasn't enough and upgraded to 8x10.
    That kept me busy for a while, but after a while 8x10 contact prints were beginning to look a little small.
    And finally the 12x20 arrived about 4 months ago. I haven't had time to get it out as much as I would like, but it is a true joy to use.
    Maybe at some point 12x20 will seem small and there will be a need to go to 20x24, but I don't see that happening any time soon. The bank account nor my wife will allow that for some time to come.

    Its a dangerous slippery slope we are on!!

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    I just bought a Cham 11x14 which is the first ULF I think I can carry easily and use as I would my 8x10 or 4x5. So I guess you could say insanity.......Evan Clarke

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    I've been doing carbon for some time, usually from 4x5 negs. I made my own large size contact printing negs. That has started to become more difficult and I did not want to get into learning how to make digital negatives. So I took the easy way out. I jumped in to 8x20. :-)

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    I was fascinated by Dick Arentz work and was looking for something larger. I liked the idea of 12x20 because it was so much cheaper to cut the film down if I wanted a smaller image, say 8x20 or 7x17 than to buy the backs and film holders. Even now with film going from $4 a sheet for 12x20 to about $14 a sheet it is still a bit of a bargain over adding other formats.

    I did a figure study workshop in Carmel recently where I used the 12x20 in the studio. The images are simply amazing.

    Lens selection has been even easier than the 8x10 as I was able to find a 210 xl, a 355 claron, and an unbelievably contrasty 24" artar. I have a couple more but that really tends to be what I use with the camera. Due to only carrying one or two lenses it is easier to carry than the 8x10. What can I say?

    It certainly becomes a performing art as well as a visual art when you get that beast out to photograph the land scape. I sometimes enjoy the stories I walk away with more than the images.

    BTW, I went from buying packaged chems to 50# bags in 2000 when I started shooting with the 12x20. It has saved me a small fortune due to increased film developing costs.
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    I got into ULF for the most silly reason: because I could. Just to have fun and explore the possibilities. On my list of to-dos is a project in which the bellows are locked at a fixed distance guaranteeing 1:1 rendition at the focal plane. I did this with 5x7 and 8x10 and the impact wasn't quite what I wanted, so that is why I am doing 11x14. Basically a dumb academic reason
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    I would love to try 12x20 but, alas, I can't carry that much weight/bulk anymore. I've just recently finished assembling a lightweight 4x5 kit dedicated to 6x12cm RF and will soon be looking for a nice used Canham 8x10 Traditional for sheet film. Even the 8x10 will often be a challenge for me. This is why I also have the 6x12cm kit.

    The LESSON to be learned is... if you want to do something then do it NOW. Time slips by rather quickly. You never know when your age and/or your health will take a turn... and it just might happen sooner than you expect.

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    I'm still working my way up to ULF (I have an 11x14 but don't use it much). I shoot various large/ultra-large formats because I got into contact-printing alt-process materials and it's the way to have images in the size you want them. I'm working on building a dedicated vertical portrait-format 12x20, which I already have the lens for - a 24" (600mm) Docter Optic Apo-Germinar f9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coriana6jp View Post
    but after a while 8x10 contact prints were beginning to look a little small.
    uh huh

    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    ... 1:1 rendition at the focal plane. I did this with 5x7 and 8x10 and the impact wasn't quite what I wanted, so that is why I am doing 11x14.
    exactly !

    So I think its more about a fascination with 1:1 and contact printing for some of us, basically a logical outcome.

    Very social as well, always a crowd.
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    I borrowed an 11x14 once...
    At least with LF landscape, a bad day of photography can still be a good day of exercise.

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