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    Plate Camera and Film/Tintype

    Is there a way to convert a dry plate holder to take the Rockland metal sheets and perhaps 4x5 sheet film? Am I looking for a film camera instead? I don't care to shoot glass at this time.

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    Are you in possession of a holder that requires a conversion? Film sheaths (inserts) are usually available for many plate holders. "Or" are you shopping for a 4x5 camera with holders that will accommodate film? Have you looked at the gear for sale on eBay? A lot of questions . . . I know.
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    Thanks! I am considering the purchase of a specific 4x5 plate camera with plate holders. I could wait to see if the inserts ever show up online, I know they were made for that camera, but I was wondering if there was another solution.

    Are the Rockland sheets thin enough to use in film holders?
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    I see now you're looking into Rockland's tintype kit. Based on what I have read here they state the sheets will fit any camera. To me that means a modern film holders included. You should email them directly with the same question, though. It could save you some hardship in the end. I hope to get the opportunity to play with tintypes someday.

    A note: Some older plate cameras will accept both more modern sheet-film holders and some older plate holders. My 8x10 and 5x7 for example, take both. The only modification required when switching between using glass plates and sheet film is that I must flip the focusing screen around to maintain a proper distance to the lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archimedes the Dog View Post
    Thanks! I am considering the purchase of a specific 4x5 plate camera with plate holders. I could wait to see if the inserts ever show up online, I know they were made for that camera, but I was wondering if there was another solution.

    Are the Rockland sheets thin enough to use in film holders?
    hi there

    the rockland sheets will fit in a sheet film holder,
    you might have to trim 1/32" off its a snug fit, i can't remember if
    i did that or not, i usually put them in a falling plate camera
    with matboard to take up the extra space in the magazine septum
    but they are trimmed to fit in a film holder without issue.

    you could CONVERT your plate holders to take both plates and tins
    but that would mean destroying it ... cutting a rectangle through the septum
    ( the thing between the 2 sides in a double holder ) putting wire in the corners and putting a 2nd sheet of glass
    in the back you can google " convert a film holder to wet plate " for the details ...
    you won't get a full 4x5 view but a cropped one ( remaining septum crops plate ) ...
    you can probably pick up old wooden film ( or modern plastic ) holders for 4x5
    they might fit in your plate camera but keep in mind wide open your focus might be a smidgen off
    because of the difference in the "T" distance between the focal plane and the film ( instead of glass )
    this different focus distance never bothered me and if you shoot plates in a modern camera or plate holders
    with a septum you will have the same change of t-distance ( again a tiny tiny amount of difference )...

    have fun!
    john

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    hi there

    the rockland sheets will fit in a sheet film holder,
    you might have to trim 1/32" off its a snug fit, i can't remember if
    i did that or not, i usually put them in a falling plate camera
    with matboard to take up the extra space in the magazine septum
    but they are trimmed to fit in a film holder without issue.

    you could CONVERT your plate holders to take both plates and tins
    but that would mean destroying it ... cutting a rectangle through the septum
    ( the thing between the 2 sides in a double holder ) putting wire in the corners and putting a 2nd sheet of glass
    in the back you can google " convert a film holder to wet plate " for the details ...
    you won't get a full 4x5 view but a cropped one ( remaining septum crops plate ) ...
    you can probably pick up old wooden film ( or modern plastic ) holders for 4x5
    they might fit in your plate camera but keep in mind wide open your focus might be a smidgen off
    because of the difference in the "T" distance between the focal plane and the film ( instead of glass )
    this different focus distance never bothered me and if you shoot plates in a modern camera or plate holders
    with a septum you will have the same change of t-distance ( again a tiny tiny amount of difference )...

    have fun!
    john
    came here to post this. beat me to it.

    I do believe the spring mechanism on some of the plate holders that retains the plate may interfere with sheet film. I have a 5x7 and two of my plate holders have a large retaining spring at the bottom that would definitely get in the way of 5x7 sheet film, but if you were doing tintypes it shouldn't be a problem.
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