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    Ilford plates

    On a slightly different note, wouldn't it be wonderful if Ilford began making plates again....?

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    Hmmm, just discovered that my two newly acquired holders for my Avus are 3.25" by 4", not 9x12 cm as I thought. So I'll happily take either size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBP View Post
    Hmmm, just discovered that my two newly acquired holders for my Avus are 3.25" by 4", not 9x12 cm as I thought. So I'll happily take either size.
    For clarification.. That would be 1/4 plate sized 3.25 x 4.25?


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    Apparently not, actually. The size really is 3.25 by 4. See these for an example http://cgi.ebay.com/2-BOXES-OF-ILFOR...QQcmdZViewItem.

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    Hmmm.... Need to see what my 3x4 plate holders really are. What they really are is stuffed with film sheaths.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Hollis View Post
    On a slightly different note, wouldn't it be wonderful if Ilford began making plates again....?
    I emailed their product request division a few weeks ago, and without giving specific numbers they said the cost for coating FP4+ or Delta 100 on glass plates would be prohibitive, even for a fair sized group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafeharrar View Post
    ......without giving specific numbers they said the cost for coating FP4+ or Delta 100 on glass plates would be prohibitive, even for a fair sized group. - Justin
    I expect the problem is that the old plate coating lines, which coated 24/7 with shifts are long in the past, and any manufacturer who can still offer plates now is producing them more or less as one-offs. The only answer, if enough people were interested, might be to pool resources and try to recreate a plate coater on a small scale, buying in a ready-made panchromatic emulsion.

    There would be a lot of technical problems to overcome, eg washing overspill from the back, and how to involve an anti-halation layer. I expect Photo Engineer could put us right on most of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Reed View Post
    I expect the problem is that the old plate coating lines, which coated 24/7 with shifts are long in the past, and any manufacturer who can still offer plates now is producing them more or less as one-offs. The only answer, if enough people were interested, might be to pool resources and try to recreate a plate coater on a small scale, buying in a ready-made panchromatic emulsion.

    There would be a lot of technical problems to overcome, eg washing overspill from the back, and how to involve an anti-halation layer. I expect Photo Engineer could put us right on most of them.
    This is just an objective observation, not a criticism...

    Judging from the interest response I received, there is not enough interest to have someone else coat these plates in Russia, then ship them piggybacked on a hologram plate order to Ohio or even dropped shipped to California. Hence, finding enough interest to actually set up a small scale coating facility among amateurs is a whole different slippery slope.

    I will offer contact information of a very nice entrepreneur in Ohio if someone else wants a go at it. It just seems the level of interest doesn't justify their level of commitment required and I certainly don't blame anyone for this.

    What does amaze me is how much interest there can be in Holographic plates.

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    Home-made Plates

    Last breath of life for an old thread, I just tried getting a positive out of some of the 10 x 8" home-made plates we didn't use when we were doing the 'Silver Gelatin' book 13 years ago. I was surprised they scrubbed up so well. It's written up as a news page on the Silverprint site;

    http://www.silverprint.co.uk/News05_3.htm

    It made me realise that if all the manufacturers ceased tomorrow, we could have a nice little Victorian-technology plate factory up & running quite quickly!

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