9x12 Plate holders 1

[Ian Grant]

Because there are so many variations of the holders I've measured & photographed what I currently own. It would be useful if anyone can add further variations and also the cameras they fit.

These two fit a Rodenstock 9x12 and an Orion Werks 9x12



details


Width 100mm, length 139mm
note the small locating lip at the top

[Ian Grant]

Again these fit a Rodenstock & Orion Werks 9x12


The Contessa Nettel code is 657

details


Width 100mm, length 139mm
note the small locating lip at the top

[Ian Grant]

The first will fit the Rodenstock or Orion Werks 9x12's but is longer than normal.
The details show why the second one won't fit.



details



First: Width 100mm, length 1145mm
note the long locating lip at the top

Second: Width 100mm, lenght 139
note the long locating lip at the top, this prevents it's use in the Rodenstock & Orion Werks as it won't slide in afr enough and leaves a large gap at the bottom.

[Ian Grant]

These will fit an early Linhof, and have no thin edge strip.



Width: 100mm Length: 141mm

It would be useful if anyone else can add further information, particularly what types each camera will accept as finding the correct 9x12 holders can be quite difficult.

Ian

[ntenny]

I'll try to find time to check dimensions when I get home, but I believe your first group are what was called "Normalfalz" and would also fit Voigtlaender, some or all Ica and Ihagee, at least the Nagel Kodaks, and a lot of oddball cameras (house brands and such).

Thanks for starting the ball rolling on this; it's a really valuable body of information and hitherto doesn't seem to have been available anywhere.

-NT

[Ian Grant]

Here's a couple of 9x12 fit Rollex roll film holders, nominally 6x9, both give a frame size of 56mm x85mm with slightly rounded corners.



Edge details


The left hand Rollex fits the Rodenstock & Orionwerks cameras, the edge details shown here are similar to the plate holders.

The right hand Rollex fits an early 9x12 Linhof.
Width of holders: 99mm (100mm Linhof fit) Length 150mm

Any other information would be greatly appreciated.

[ntenny]

Here are a couple of addenda, without pictures yet.

Voigtlaender 9x12 holders (no identifying number; I suspect all Voigtlaenders are the same): width 97 mm, length 147 mm, locating lip 7 mm (measured at the edge of the holder). I can personally confirm that these fit a Voigtlaender Bergheil and Avus, a Nagel Fornidar 30, and a Photo-Porst house-brand camera that I think was made by Orionwerk.

Kodak 9x12 film/plate holder (no model number; they say "Patent U.S.A. 1,933,823"): width 97 mm, length 148 mm, locating lip 6 mm (at edge). Double flange with the groove in between (I'll post a picture); they fit the same cameras as above.

-NT

[Ian Grant]

I've double checked the widths of my plate holders and they vary between 98.5mm/99mm, except the Linhof fit type which are 100mm.

Ian

[spoolman]

Hello Ian:I noticed your thread regarding various plate holders and I would like to add this item.The ground glass back for my Goerz "Mystery Camera" is as follows:the lip is 3 mm, the length (from top to bottom) is 144 mm, the width (from outer edge to outer edge) is 108 mm and it is 3 mm thick.Any ideas as to what holders will fit ?.

Thanks,

Doug

[Ian Grant]

Doug, the width of the focus screen back is deceptive because it's usually wider than the plate holders, often overlapping slot is. the guides that take the holders.

You need to see how thick the guide slots are, I don't have a micrometer but the Linhof fit Rollex is approx 3.5mm thick at the edges. It sounds like they might fot your Goerz.

Ian