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    Quote Originally Posted by adelorenzo View Post
    Well, as this is winding to a close I have to say that it's going to be near impossible to judge this thing. There have been so many great images and so much creativity from people to make them.

    Bert: I know there is at least one other person who might need to post images tomorrow. I've got plans for the weekend so I am planning to review all the images and pick a "winner" on Sunday evening (PST) so if there are any stragglers tomorrow they'll get looked at.

    Hi Adelorenzo,
    That would be nice, thank you.

    The paper negative was exposed during for 4 hours today. It was a cloudy day with the first 10 minutes some little sunshine. I developed the paper negative this evening. I used a sponge and old, used & left over Maco developer in the dark. I sponged for about 4 minutes with the developer, then sponged Stop for 2 minutes, followed with 10 minutes Fix sponging. Then I flushed the large negative in the bath tub for about 30 minutes.

    Using the sponge was surprisingly easy. It is strange to see the developing starting in places where I started sponging. It looked a bit like this:
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    And WOW: what is this size for a negative impressive!! I've never used such a large negative (20x24 inch), but it makes me wanting to get me a real ULF camera even more!! You don't even need a magnifier to see what's on it.

    I dried the negative for an hour and then tried to take a digital photo of it. But I haven't found yet how to do this without lamps or whatever reflecting in the negative. I'll give it an other try tomorrow. Maybe I'll think of something tonight.

    Here are the first (lousy) results, and yes: posted on February 28th before the official deadline.

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    I'll try po post a decent "scan" before Sunday night. The original negative is much better and sharper than this poor photograph of it ...

    And about the rules of this MSA: Is was cheap, I used a cheap camera and it was a challenge.

    The camera is solely made out of old cardboard and outdated Duct tape (not so sticky anymore). No lens used but a simple pinhole (about 0.6 mm) giving me an f-stop of f 1/1000. The photo paper 20x24" is very, very old Ilford RC paper from an opened box that was given to me. I think it expired about 20 years ago. The developer was leftover from a bottle I used before to develop film sheets, as was the Stop and Fix.

    The total cost of this project was $0.00 (zero). The fun I had was priceless. This was a fun MSA that inspired me to go further than I did before. I know now that I really can build a camera this big ( next one will be made out of wood), and that I can get the exposure right with paper negatives.
    So thank you Adelorenzo for this great assignment!!!

    Bert from Holland
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    Last edited by TheToadMen; 02-28-2014 at 07:31 PM. Click to view previous post history.
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    * My favorite cameras: Nikon S2, Hasselblad SWC, Leica SL, Leica M7, Russian FKD 18x24, Bronica SQ-B and RF645, Rolleiflex T, Nikon F4s, Olympus Pen FT, Agfa Clack and my pinhole cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheToadMen View Post
    I'll try po post a decent "scan" before Sunday night. The original negative is much better and sharper than this poor photograph of it ...
    I have tried to make a better photo of the negative, since I can't scan 20x24 inch negatives. But there was always the problem of reflections. This is glossy Ilford photo paper. Lesson learned: don't use glossy paper for paper negatives.

    The best try was my daughter holding the negative and have her moving around the room until there were (almost) no reflections:

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    Maybe this will also help you to get an idea of the size of this negative.

    I made a close up shots to show you more details:
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    The image is rather sharp, but not as sharp as I hoped for (even for pinhole). But this may be due to the fact that the camera is very light and very big and might have been moved by wind during the 4 hours exposure. I'll make a still life scene indoors and shoot it with this camera to test it.

    I'll also make a contact print of this negative in the near future. First I must locate a glass pane larger than 20x24".
    I'll also peel the paper apart: separating the image from the plastic back layer and rub it in with lineseed oil, until it is fully soaked. This will make the paper negative almost transparent, thus reducing exposure times by half for contact printing with alt-photo techniques.
    I already loosened the corner:
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    This works best when the photo has almost dried, but is still fresh.

    Well, this will conclude my contribution to this MSA, never thought I would enter a large negative in the end. But the fun isn't over yet. I'll continue on this road ...

    Bert from Holland
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    "Have fun and catch that light beam!"
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    my Linkedin pinhole group: http://tinyurl.com/pinholegroup


    * I'm an analogue enthusiast, trying not to fall into the digital abyss.
    * My favorite cameras: Nikon S2, Hasselblad SWC, Leica SL, Leica M7, Russian FKD 18x24, Bronica SQ-B and RF645, Rolleiflex T, Nikon F4s, Olympus Pen FT, Agfa Clack and my pinhole cameras.

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    Did you try using a polarizer to get rid of the light reflections? It works when taking a photo in a frame with glass. Can't see why it won't work for a glossy negative.

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    Monthly Shooting Assignment - Jan/Feb 2014 - Cheap camera challenge!

    Few! Last minute submission....

    It's lame but, this was a hail marry pass...

    LEGO camera built with the little one while she was making a fun lego friends setup I was making a boring square box with lots of light leaks, no focussing, and terrible aim.

    Shot on my last box of FP100C45 Fujirpoid film, as I have no film developing equipment where I am so the Polaroid and a cell phone snapshot of the Polaroid was all I had, but it was fun to build a lego camera, if I had more time and more Legos I would have made it focus able and more light right but as is it was fixed at about 15 feet on an ultra wide angle 75mm lens.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    Few! Last minute submission....
    LEGO camera built with the little one while she was making a fun lego friends setup I was making a boring square box with lots of light leaks, no focussing, and terrible aim.

    Shot on my last box of FP100C45 Fujirpoid film, as I have no film developing equipment where I am so the Polaroid and a cell phone snapshot of the Polaroid was all I had, but it was fun to build a lego camera, if I had more time and more Legos I would have made it focus able and more light right but as is it was fixed at about 15 feet on an ultra wide angle 75mm lens.
    Hi Stone,
    Nice admission!! Lose the lens and make it a pinhole camera to make it really cheap. It can be done, see:
    http://www.foundphotography.com/cate.../lego-cameras/
    or
    http://petapixel.com/2011/03/03/simp...y-lego-pieces/
    or
    http://www.diyphotography.net/fully-...inhole-camera/
    or
    http://www.diyphotography.net/you-ca...inhole-camera/

    Can't we extend this MSA, since it is an inspiration for new and creative phoyography?
    "Have fun and catch that light beam!"
    Bert from Holland
    my blog: http://thetoadmen.blogspot.nl
    my Linkedin pinhole group: http://tinyurl.com/pinholegroup


    * I'm an analogue enthusiast, trying not to fall into the digital abyss.
    * My favorite cameras: Nikon S2, Hasselblad SWC, Leica SL, Leica M7, Russian FKD 18x24, Bronica SQ-B and RF645, Rolleiflex T, Nikon F4s, Olympus Pen FT, Agfa Clack and my pinhole cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheToadMen View Post
    Hi Stone,
    Nice admission!! Lose the lens and make it a pinhole camera to make it really cheap. It can be done, see:
    http://www.foundphotography.com/cate.../lego-cameras/
    or
    http://petapixel.com/2011/03/03/simp...y-lego-pieces/
    or
    http://www.diyphotography.net/fully-...inhole-camera/
    or
    http://www.diyphotography.net/you-ca...inhole-camera/

    Can't we extend this MSA, since it is an inspiration for new and creative phoyography?
    The winner could choose to, it's definitely a reason to play around with gear you normally wouldn't. And on the cheap! But it's an experiment in testing your abilities.

    I have to admit I do wish there wasn't as much snow because then I could test the less contrasty image and see what I can get with my big box pinhole camera, but ultimately I think the 11x14 image was awesome but needs to wait till I have a dedicated darkroom, that said, I now have JOBO tubes from a trade that are large enough and I can get rid of the Cibichrome tubes that don't seem to work that well for film.
    ~Stone | "...of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." ~Dennis Miller

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    The winner could choose to, it's definitely a reason to play around with gear you normally wouldn't. And on the cheap! But it's an experiment in testing your abilities.

    I have to admit I do wish there wasn't as much snow because then I could test the less contrasty image and see what I can get with my big box pinhole camera, but ultimately I think the 11x14 image was awesome but needs to wait till I have a dedicated darkroom, that said, I now have JOBO tubes from a trade that are large enough and I can get rid of the Cibichrome tubes that don't seem to work that well for film.
    The winner could, but the thing is, it's nice and inspiring to have a complete new theme every MSA.
    But what's stopping us to make a new thread about this theme after this MSA is over? Would be nice to hear now and again from you guys what you tinkered and shot.

    Adelorenzo: maybe you will do the honours since it is originally your sublime theme? After you made your decision about the winner?

    Bert from Holland
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    "Have fun and catch that light beam!"
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    * I'm an analogue enthusiast, trying not to fall into the digital abyss.
    * My favorite cameras: Nikon S2, Hasselblad SWC, Leica SL, Leica M7, Russian FKD 18x24, Bronica SQ-B and RF645, Rolleiflex T, Nikon F4s, Olympus Pen FT, Agfa Clack and my pinhole cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    Few! Last minute submission....

    It's lame but, this was a hail marry pass...

    LEGO camera built with the little one while she was making a fun lego friends setup I was making a boring square box with lots of light leaks, no focussing, and terrible aim.

    Shot on my last box of FP100C45 Fujirpoid film, as I have no film developing equipment where I am so the Polaroid and a cell phone snapshot of the Polaroid was all I had, but it was fun to build a lego camera, if I had more time and more Legos I would have made it focus able and more light right but as is it was fixed at about 15 feet on an ultra wide angle 75mm lens.


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    That's pretty awesome. I'm sure you've seen the focusing box camera made out of legos that's floating around?

    Might have to go visit my parents so I can dig out my childhood legos, haha.
    New-ish convert to film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fretlessdavis View Post
    That's pretty awesome. I'm sure you've seen the focusing box camera made out of legos that's floating around?

    Might have to go visit my parents so I can dig out my childhood legos, haha.
    I've seen it, but had the idea before that, and mine would have been similar on design but I 1 didn't have enough time and 2 didn't have enough Legos without taking the "girl" Legos from the little blond there in the background... But I was allowed to use the "boy" Legos HAH!
    ~Stone | "...of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." ~Dennis Miller

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    Hah! Legos were the only thing I played with as a kid... We still have building contests between my dad, myself, and my brother sometimes on holidays. I might have to try out something similar, except with focus and normal film holders. Maybe 5x7 or 8x10, too. Give myself a chance to play with bigger negatives.
    New-ish convert to film.
    Pentax MX for 35mm
    Bronica ETRS for 645



 

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