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    Well said Michael....hold the minutia, and bring on the corn Flakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter De Smidt
    That's a tempting position, especially for artistic photographs. Even though some people read symbolism and representation into all of their artistic analyses, they aren't necessarily better making qualities, i.e. something doesn't necessarily become better because it is sybolic or representative of something else. I enjoy beautiful natural scenes because of what they are; not because of what they stand for, and that's how I look at photographs as well.

    Oops. I read what Tim wrote too quickly. I'm not going to take a position on idealism versus realism. An idealist would hold that an "object" is nothing more than all of the perceptions of it, or alternately all of the possible perceptions of it, or something like that. My point is that photographs can be enjoyed as original objects in their own right, without reading any symbolism or representation into them. They are things just as much as trees or mountains are. I'm not against others taking another view, just as I'm not against people reading God into images, or other places for that matter. I simply don't want to do so myself.

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    I like this image as well as much of Ansel's other works. Ansel has had much influence on many landscape photographers and I am no exception. Personally, I would consider him the single most influential B&W photographer to me and my own landscape work. I may use some of his techniques but apply it to my own personal vision and in color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturephoto1
    I like this image as well as much of Ansel's other works. Ansel has had much influence on many landscape photographers and I am no exception. Personally, I would consider him the single most influential B&W photographer to me and my own landscape work. I may use some of his techniques but apply it to my own personal vision and in color.

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    So have you looked at any of Ansel's color work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donbga
    So have you looked at any of Ansel's color work?
    Yes Don, I have. I have a small book of Adams color images, as I recall from the Mural Project. But, I was taking landscape photos long before seeing much less knowing anything about Adams' color work. So his influence for me was based upon his B&W work. From my understanding, Adams did not print any or little of his color work because at the time, he did not like the color printing processes available. Long after his death, my printer, Bill Nordstrom had the opportunity to print as I recall both a 5" x 7" Adams Kodachrome and an 8" x 10" Weston Kodachrome. Unfortunately, I never had the opportunity to see Bill's handywork in printing these either off of a Lightjet or Chromira machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturephoto1
    Yes Don, I have. I have a small book of Adams color images, as I recall from the Mural Project. But, I was taking landscape photos long before seeing much less knowing anything about Adams' color work. So his influence for me was based upon his B&W work. From my understanding, Adams did not print any or little of his color work because at the time, he did not like the color printing processes available. Long after his death, my printer, Bill Nordstrom had the opportunity to print as I recall both a 5" x 7" Adams Kodachrome and an 8" x 10" Weston Kodachrome. Unfortunately, I never had the opportunity to see Bill's handywork in printing these either off of a Lightjet or Chromira machine.

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    Well I think it is interesting to read Ansel's thoughts about his color work. Long story short is that he didn't like his work partly because of the limitations of color materials (mostly Ektachrome and Kodachrome transparanecies). He was frustrated with color since his ability to stylize the images were so limited even though he had excellent knowledge about the practice and theory of color photography.

    His posthumous book, 'Ansel Adams In Color', is definitely worth a close inspection. Some of the images in the book have the look of some contemporary fine art color photographers. These images show how Ansel minimalised his palette and forms yielding a very un-Anselesque look. Specifically the photos on pages 44, 45, 54, 55, 75, 93 are his best examples of this 'technique'.

    It is also interesting to note the names of some of the colaborators involved in producing this book. Harry Callahan picked the images to be used. John Szarkowski as well as many other notables contributed their advice producing and editing this neat little book.

    I've seen some of Adam's vintage color prints and they have a much different feeling than much of today's over saturated color printing.

    Finally, his SX-70 color work has a unique look all their own IMO, It's amazing to see what he did with this positive color material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim atherton
    I'm occasionally tempted to side with Bazin and Kendall Watson and declare that photographs are entirely transparent and the photographic image is the object itself... but I can never quite bring myself to do it. Though the idea of the photograph as a true icon (essentially what has been expressed in some of these threads) is appealing
    Wouldn't the coincidence of subject and object mean they're OPAQUE, and thus purely iconic?

    Also - can you redefine what you imply by 'true icon'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbga
    I've seen some of Adam's vintage color prints and they have a much different feeling than much of today's over saturated color printing.

    You don't think that could simply be a byproduct of process do you? Or maybe the images/plates you were viewing were faded..?

    Something similar crossed my mind via the Atget thread - that perhaps much of the appeal was due to the characteristics of the process from that age, and/or being documents of a far-bygone era. I think Sontag would have something to say about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky
    You don't think that could simply be a byproduct of process do you? Or maybe the images/plates you were viewing were faded..?
    No that wasn't my impression. They had the look of Harry Callahan's vintage color prints, if you know what I mean.

    I can't recall for sure now but the two Adams prints that I saw may have been dye transfers and so perhaps were the Callahan prints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Chinn
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    While his images are icons to many, I wonder though, does Adams hold any relevance to young photographers today?
    No time to plow through the whole thread - but thought I'd answer this particular query.

    For many years Ansel Adams had a close working relationship with the magazine "Arizona Highways" and produced many images for it.

    Anyone today who has seed a copy of this spectacular publication will readily know how Adams continues to inform the art of young landscape photographers today.

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