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All of this effort to get more sound and more effects. Sounds like a digital guy using photoshop to get more color and distort the image.
How about plain old classic guitar with no amp? That is music to my ears.
So, without an amp at all, I hear what I think is better sound and at the right sound level.
PE
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 Originally Posted by Photo Engineer  All of this effort to get more sound and more effects. Sounds like a digital guy using photoshop to get more color and distort the image.
How about plain old classic guitar with no amp? That is music to my ears.
So, without an amp at all, I hear what I think is better sound and at the right sound level.
PE I see your point, although it is not quite the same thing. As Steve said, the electric guitar sound we know now is the product of some rather simple technology that was not particularly high fidelity. You might say that we have been socialized into this sound.
As for "plain old classic guitar with no amp," it is definitely one of my favourite sounds. I no longer play professionally (at least not much, although I do teach) so most of playing these days is on an acoustic guitar (for the guitar nerds in the forum - and there appear to be lots - it is a Beneteau, handmade in Ontario, Canada. About a 00 Martin size with wide nut, slotted peghead, rosewood sides and back. A real fingerpicker).
When I do play professionally the odd time with my acoustic, the sound guys are always annoyed because I don't use a pickup and instead insist on a microphone placed in front of the soundhole. Sort of like guys who insist on film. There are no pickups for acoustic guitar that sound as good as a decent mike. Go ahead, try and convince me. I have played most of them. If anyone has seen Allison Krause and her band recently, they sometimes perform with only ONE mic for the whole band, just like in the 1930s. They position themselves around it and when there is a solo, that person steps closer. I love it but it is more demanding on the player.
The BEST sound, as PE suggests, is no amplification at all, not even through the PA with a mic. That limits the audience of course, but it is awful nice.
As it says in the signature of someone in this forum, everything is analogue, even digital (eventually).
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Originally Posted by PVia Yep...I use vacuum tube guitar amps exclusively. Tubes are a little more expensive now than they used to be, but they sound great. There is no comparison...just like film. I make 'em, guitar amplifiers that is, with tubes. The US made the best quality tubes. veroamps.com
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Originally Posted by chrisf I make 'em, guitar amplifiers that is, with tubes. The US made the best quality tubes. veroamps.com Sounds great, nice clean layout also.
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Originally Posted by chrisf The US made the best quality tubes. Being British, I will have to cheer on the home team. Mullard!
I love the look of your amps, especially the Paramount.
Steve.
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Certainly got a sweet looking art deco thing going on with those cabinets.
Hmmm RCA vs Mullard, a bit like the Yellow box vs White box thing that goes on here. "Flatter Me, and I May Not Believe You. Criticize Me, and I May Not like You. Ignore Me, and I May Not Forgive You. Encourage Me, and I Will Not Forget You."
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Just musing here...
If we are talking about audio amplifiers (as compared to guitar amplifiers), I've often wondered if the reason that tube amps sound good is that the distortion they add essentially compensates for the "flattening" effect of microphones and speakers.
In other words, even if they aren't as accurate electronically as solid state, the colour they add may offset the other effects of the amplification or recording and amplification process.
Matt
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check this out
At the bottom of the page (link is shown below) is a video of a gentleman in France who makes his own triodes. Shows you how he builds and processes them, piece by piece. He even makes his own tube bases from an injection mold (looks home built as well).
http://translate.google.com/translat...hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Bob M.
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Originally Posted by rmazzullo A video of a gentleman in France who makes his own triodes. That is fantastic. I was expecting a crude glass bubble with a few wires sticking out.
He's got a sellable product there.
His manufacturing equipment and jigs would make for some uniformity in a hand made product - very impressive.
Steve.
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But wait....there's MORE. (This you have to see.)
This particular page (link below) belongs to a woman who builds devices that can probably best be described as "electromechanics as art". Not taking into account the obvious military surplus she is restoring (check out those pages too), she has built her version of the Enigma machine ("the coding machine"), the antikythera mechanism, and a mechanical version of an X-Y plotter.
Aside from the electronic connectors, metal spheres, and "possibly" the switches, she makes every other component personally. Dials, gears, everything. This work is absolutely fantastic. She is in her 60's, and apparently has been at this since she was 14 (look for the photos of the hand built oscilloscope)....
http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/
this is a link to a photo of the encoding wheels (that she made) of the coding machine that she built:
http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/tvv1/pht23.html
(Maybe she'd be interested in taking a crack at emulsion mixing and delivery).
(edit) I forgot to mention that it would seem that she had to design an analog computer equivalent to make some of her creations a reality.
I am floored.
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Bob M.
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