A Christmas Cookie from Santa

[Sirius Glass]

Thanks Joe. Maybe I'll have 2 versions. Economy and 1st class. Just like airlines. But no search beforehand!

PE

If I agreed to get groped, would I get the 1st class version for the Economy version cost?

Steve

[Photo Engineer]

If I agreed to get groped, would I get the 1st class version for the Economy version cost?

Steve

OMG. I think I might refuse to sell you a copy !!!!!

[Sirius Glass]

OMG. I think I might refuse to sell you a copy !!!!!

Refuse sending a copy to the Quite Ghastly Quarrelsome Gnome , but please send one to me sans grope!

Steve

[Athiril]

I'm excited!

[Photo Engineer]

I'm beginning to regret both this thread and the title. You know, writing a book is not all it is cracked up to be, nor is it very easy. In any event, a lot of people are saying "where is it". Well, there are several dozen people out there who have seen draft VII of the book and have held it in their hands or read portions of it.

In any event, after review by 5 of my peers there are several major enhancements that they feel should be added and are under consideration for being added. These added items is via private communication and is over and above the editing they did on what already exists.

1. More on sensitometry and densitometry.

2. Maybe something on system design and optimization < make comments guys and gals!

3. Stirring, Mixing and Homogenizing

4. Chloro-Bromides < I ignore these and feel that they are too hard for starters

6. More detail in some sections regarding the chemistry of the stuff I do describe

Well, you see the point. I have scoped this out and it will add another 50 or so pages. I do agree that it will make a better book especially #1 and #2.

As an added item, having just taught another workshop, I feel that a rewrite of the formulas would help in clarity as some students had trouble with the format. I have changed it several times over the last 5 years of workshops and the latest was closest to the book. I don't like it and the students asked more questions.

Just tacking this on to the thread FYI.

PE

[c.d.ewen]

Ron:

Save some stuff for the Revised Edition. No matter what else you put into the first edition, people will clamor for extras that you can't think of now.

I used to tell the kids that turning their paper in was more important than having it perfect.

Charley

[hrst]

IMHO,

1. Don't use your time explaining sensitometry and densitometry. It's the material found in any basic book.
2. Sounds interesting.
3. Sounds very good.
4. Skip that if you feel that it's too hard. General principles like 2) and 3) are always more important than specific topics, which are infinite in number.
6. Details on chemistry sound good. Many sources omit details which make them very tedious to reproduce.

So I'd say, use your time for 2, 3 and 6.

And then, seriously consider that BW/color/printing quality thing. No matter what people say in this thread, it will be a fact that a $100 price increase WILL lower the sales considerably, and WILL increase the threshold to start emulsion making with your book. I'm sure you are not doing a children's picture book here, but a product that will enable as many as possible to find the joys of emulsion making, and give some high-quality, real information thereof. Also, it will probably be kind of scientific book. So, use color as extra only if it is possible without making a huge sacrifice.

All the best, keep your emulsions stirring!

[Photo Engineer]

Thanks all, and keep the comments coming. I am listening.

PE

[rmazzullo]

I want it all, especially if it provides a larger knowledge base from which we can either design or recreate emulsions as needed. I am also more than willing to pay the extra cost for a larger book, or a set (a vol. 1 and vol. 2 , perhaps?)

Bob M.

[Kirk Keyes]

#1 - Definitely skip densitometery and sensitometry - tell people to buy a copy of Todd and Zakia's "Photographic sensitometry: the study of tone reproduction" for a thorough, in-depth book on the subject.

#2 - Good.

#3 - Doubleplusgood.

#4 - Some coverage should be made, but perhaps save an indepth coverage of it for Vol #2.

#6 (or is that really #5 ;^)) - You know I love chemistry so I can't say no to that. But don't make it too indepth that it detreacts from the subject at hand - making emulsions.