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The knowledge will not be lost, Ron. Cheer up  There will always be some nutjob (ahem, dedicated scientist) in some remote lab, toiling away, turning over stones that nobody thought of and enjoying that process of discovery. Look at it this way, we have been in the "web information age" for a few decades now and what is known now will be disseminated and preserved. It's not like this knowledge will vanish into thin air, there will always be people like us to appreciate it and push it forward.
(these optimistic words uttered by a young scientist who now realizes that he took a vow of poverty when he went into science in this day and age :rolleyes: )
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 Originally Posted by Tim Gray
I get what you are saying. It makes me sad. On one hand, it sounds like a lot - 15 educated people working with full lab facilities. On the other hand, it's only 15 people. I know it costs money to pay those people and put them in a lab, but in the big picture, it's not that much. It always frustrates me how short sighted our culture is in terms of funding research.
Tim;
By now, you have an authoritative answer.
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Keith;
A round number costing of that is about $25 million in the 15 years. So think it over again. It would take a multi discipline scientist many years of work to accomplish this doing synthetic chemistry, inorganic chemistry, emulsion making and coating to test and retest.
Good luck.
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That's why I used the term 'nutjob'
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Keith, Struan;
I wish I could sit you two down with people like Annabel and Paul Gilman and a few other EK theoreticians. It would be a memorable round table discussion.  I'm sure though that that would never come about.  I have talked to one of the sensitizing dye chemists and he never wants to discuss synthetic organic chemistry again in his entire life!
Tim;
As you found, you are talking to the wrong person. But then, there is no "right" person. Ever see a chicken have its head cut off?
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Sit us down then. My place or yours? I can invite people for seminar here, I really can.... with everything paid for...
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At Kodak there are the Weissberger lectures given at KRL as well. These and the series before Arnold Weissberger died have been ongoing for nearly 100 years AFAIK. I was just kidding though. I could never arrange something like that. You might be able to though.
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I hope that the research continues and that we see ongoing refinements of the products that we have and even more new products. But, worst case scenario (this is an intellectual exercise), if we were "stuck" with no further improvements after 2009, would we be in such bad shape? Many people are still not even using the "new" technology of several years ago (the T-Max and Delta films). And there is never any shortage of complaints that what people really want are the old products which have been discontinued. So if nothing new happens in terms of film research and new film products, does it really matter so much?
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Charles,
A good point.
But don't forget that there are not only Apug types using film. Especially industrial customers may have a different perspective.
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