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    Raw gelatin in water melts at 20 deg C with no hardener. So, yes it is possible to melt unhardened gelatin. Hand coated plates should cure for a while to harden and they should be processed at 20 deg C to be on the safe side.

    A prehardener and a hardening fix are both good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Rogers View Post
    Do you luckily have a "glass thumb"?
    I suspect you must be "charmed" !
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    WHAT is a soft nail brush?!!
    I'll take your question in the spirit intended and say, 'Thank you', but I cringe a bit, nevertheless. No glass thumb, no magic -- just consistent work. People shouldn't get the impression emulsionmaking takes special talent. Success comes from doggedly chasing down answers, exactly as Asarnil is doing with his melting emulsions.

    http://www.google.com/products?q=nai...ed=0CDYQrQQwAA

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    Keep it up Asarnil. I've been trying to keep my chemistry at 68*f or slightly cooler. The nice thing about homemade emulsion is you can see what your developing. I check mine every 5 mins under safelight with the rest of the time in the dark.

    Keep us posted!

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    Apologies for the humor...

    Quote Originally Posted by dwross View Post
    People shouldn't get the impression emulsionmaking takes special talent. Success comes from doggedly chasing down answers, exactly as Asarnil is doing with his melting emulsions.
    Ah, but you see, THAT IS a special talent.

    By temperment, not everyone is capable of the relentless pursuit of success in the face and midst of failures.

    Anyway, I am sorry you do not wish to be thought of as having a "Magic Touch" but OK...
    If that's the case I concede you don't.

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    Just to keep you updated - it worked!!
    The emulsion didn't come off from 3 out of 3 plates I developed today (didn't have time to do more). The surface is nice and smooth, no frilling, no peeling, no lifting off, awsome, I couldn't be happier
    And even though the images aren't perfect (probably due to very thin layer of emulsion and badly judged exposure parameters) I finally get good results on all the plates I did.
    Like I said earlier - I changed 2 things - I dried the plates in ventilated room and I added chrome alum. I have no idea which one did the trick (I'd say it's the ventilation afterall though) but surely one of them did.
    I'll try to post tonight the scans so you guys can judge the quality
    Cheers!

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    Sorry for double posting, but I wanted to show you what i finally did
    The quality is awfull because I scaned it in a really bad scanner and just inverted the image in PS, no adjustements.
    I'll work on the prints this week and I'll post it here.
    So what do you think about it? Not bad for a beginner?

    http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1110/sk0002a.jpg

    Anywho, cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asarnil View Post
    So what do you think about it? Not bad for a beginner?
    http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1110/sk0002a.jpg
    Ah! The master of the understatement as well as gelatin Absolutely lovely, and not just the plate itself. Very nice image. Where, may I ask? Much better test image than my infinitely patient stuffed animals.

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    Very well done. Congratulations!

    PE

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    Hehe, well thanks Denise
    The place is Torun, Poland, a half-burned, abandoned house almost at the center of a big, urban crossing, very lovely (kinda dangerous though due to some drunks wondering about).
    I decided that the first gelatin cycle will be about ruins, abandoned edifices and old post-industrial buildings.
    And BTW your stuffed animals are cute and hey! they'll never blink!

    EDIT: thanks to PE too

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    Very nice, can't wait to see the print of this scanned.

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