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    Hi Gary, I do hope your mum's well.
    On a different front, never fear, I'm taping the whole horror for Marc so, you too can be subjected to those 26 minutes LJH so carelessly handed over to the Australian Broadcasting Company last night.
    Share the love, I say!

    I, on the other hand, would much prefer to sit through the television series YOU first described in that other thread... or "My Darkroom Rules", as Ross suggested earlier. One good side effect, however, is that I spent six hours yesterday re-watching the BBC's "The Genius of Photography".
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    ^ She's fine, really fine. Thanks for asking. But in the Charge Nurse's own inimitable words after 3 nights, "oh, we've had enough!". So she goes to Fossil Central — sorry, aged care today, while my sister and I do a runner for a week <*grin*>.

    But I digress. Meanwhile.... so there are plastic cameras next week?? That should be good. Might even see 'Brutus', my EOS 1N... in the hands of a rank beginner. Yeah, I'd like to see that...
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    One (of many) issue that I had with last night's show was the difference in lenses used.

    The first shooter (Skye?) had what seemed to be a 50mm f1.2 on board. Great lens, especially for this type of shooting. The next shooter (the Luddite who couldn't even turn the camera on!!!) seemed to have some mid-range zoom that, with the way she was using it, had way too much DOF for my liking. She just couldn't seem to isolate the subjects.

    The other issue comes with focus. So many of the shots were not close to being in focus. It's 2012 - AF is now so good that this is somewhat unbelievable. Top of the range Canon cameras not able to focus? Hmmm…. Can't wait to see how they go with the Linhof that is reported to be coming up.

    I need to stop writing; more of my life lost to this show.

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    My problem with it has more to do with the fact that they're neither teaching anything nor being taught anything. Who takes on an assignment, particularly a wedding, with totally unfamiliar gear? I can't watch it because I'm over-empathising. I KNOW I'd be no better in their shoes... but I also know I'd never put my hand up at such an important moment in someone's life and say, "Sure, I'll photograph your wedding." So, yes, they get credit for extraordinary bravery, but I simply can't find anything else to take from this series.
    I would really like to see how professionals handle this situation. Not just the technical aspects but also something that proves to the millions of camera owners these days that their camera doesn't automatically bestow upon them professional status and that, if they want to hang up their shingle and go into business doing this KNOW your business, learn your craft.

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    Molli, professionals will have booked the shoot, turned up, fired away, debriefed and cleared out in the space of 50 minutes. And earned their $3,000 on levels of expertise and efficiency alone.
    I have disagreed from the start that rank beginners should be given a camera like the Canon 5D: there is very little such a machine cannot handle, and AF is one of its strongest points in any sort of light; it comes down to baseline skills of the user.
    By the sound of the episode last night, it has based more on entertainment/cringe value than any solid demonstration or educational value. I venture to suggest that it sets out to deliberately make fools of the contestants, and they seem to lap it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisson Du Jour View Post
    But I digress. Meanwhile.... so there are plastic cameras next week?? That should be good...
    Yep, I'll offer up my F801s for that episode
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    Quote Originally Posted by LJH View Post
    The other issue comes with focus. So many of the shots were not close to being in focus. It's 2012 - AF is now so good that this is somewhat unbelievable.
    Interestingly, I came across this last night looking at photos from my sons birthday. My partner has a family friend who falls into the "I've got a spare couple thousand dollars, hmmm, I might buy a camera and advertise myself as a pro" category. On a USB she posted us with goodness-knows how many images from the day shot with her shiny new 7D (and kit lens), only three (of those I managed to look at) were in focus... Maybe canon IS slipping? I use a 5D for work, but on a tripod, with slow moving subjects... So I definitely don't push the AF...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveR View Post
    Interestingly, I came across this last night looking at photos from my sons birthday. My partner has a family friend who falls into the "I've got a spare couple thousand dollars, hmmm, I might buy a camera and advertise myself as a pro" category. On a USB she posted us with goodness-knows how many images from the day shot with her shiny new 7D (and kit lens), only three (of those I managed to look at) were in focus... Maybe canon IS slipping? I use a 5D for work, but on a tripod, with slow moving subjects... So I definitely don't push the AF...

    Lens AF/MF switch on the MF setting. Until she bumps it and, presto, it's AF again...
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    I certainly found the wedding episode more cringeworthy that the first couple. I am a bit surprised that Aunty has lowered its programming standards to make such a show. Now, if it followed a similar format to the "Master...." show where there is a masterclass now and then, then that would be a show worth watching.

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    i dont really have an issue with the show.
    its not great, but i find it better than majority of the shit of tv these days..
    a lot of the contestants claim that they have been into photography for atleast a year, some more, so shouldnt they have a better idea of what they are doing?
    i think a lot of bullshitting has gone on from the contestants part, in the Portrait ep, the guy shooting Dick Smith claimed he had been shooting portraits and bands, but couldnt figure out why his photos were dark, then Dick asks him what his F stop was..
    and the Wedding ep was pretty cringeworthy. that second lady was shown to be using a DSLR in her intro, but appeared to have no idea how to use one. i know she probably has an entry level camera, but Canon and Nikons are fairly similar in buttons and the Canon even has a switch that says on..
    but whatever, ill continue to watch.
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